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    opinions on Ubuntu?

    Just wondering what some of you guys thought about this operating system called Ubuntu?

    I was reading on Microsofts move to retire XP in order to force everyone to re-license with Vista and how all the IT guys are looking for solutions (contiuning XP support manually, Linux ect) I heard about Ubuntu and it looks pretty clean to me, anyone tried it yet?

    Also this may sound like a noob question. I have ran multiple Windows OS's on my computer before (XP and 2000 professional) but do you think I will have any problems if I say install Linux and this ubuntu?

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    Ubuntu is a distribution of Linux. And Kubuntu is just like Ubuntu except it comes with KDE instead of Gnome. KDE & Gnome are desktop environments.
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    As noted , Ubuntu is linux, the one I am using on my notebook now and the one I use on my entertainment PC and 2 of my work PC's.

    In other words it works for me
    but windows it ain't, if you rely on specific software packages then best see if there is a Linux alternative before you change.

    I still use XP in a virtual machine for some software I cant live without, e.g. photoshop/flash/some accounting packages but overall I find Ubuntu has most of what I need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ley View Post
    I heard about Ubuntu and it looks pretty clean to me, anyone tried it yet?

    Also this may sound like a noob question. I have ran multiple Windows OS's on my computer before (XP and 2000 professional) but do you think I will have any problems if I say install Linux and this ubuntu?
    try it and see your self, in my opionion you'll have no problem but I could be wrong,
    My advise is to try also other distro. Debian based distro as ubuntu have a good installer, but same thing you'll find in redhat based distro.

    best regards

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    I love it. I write tutorials on it at my blog. Once you get the internet up it is smooth sailing.
    You can try it at least with the live CD.
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    Ubuntu 6.10 is very straightforward to install, but I am having all sorts of difficulties getting my internet connection to work with Firefox. I'm using a ADSL modem/router which seems to be working OK and I have followed the Ubuntu instructions for setting up the network. But all attempts to log on to a website end in an error message, "the connection has timed out. The server at (URL) is taking too long to respond.&quot

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    I like this article.....

    http://blogs.techrepublic.com.com/opensource/?p=49

    Likening Linux Distributions to US Politics

    * Date: April 1st, 2007
    * Author: Jack Wallen
    * Category: General, Gpl, Ubuntu, Get Jacked, Rpm, Fedora, Suse

    This is going to be a stretch but something hit me today when I was taking a look at some posts regarding Ubuntu. You can look at Linux distributions as if they were political parties vying for a spot in the United States political machine. Let's see how this plays out. Parties are in no certain order nor am I going to play favoritism to any party (okay, I'll TRY not to play favoritism to any party…but I can't promise anything at this point.)

    Red Hat Linux: At one point Red Hat Linux used to define the Linux movement. It was Socialism at it's best. The software was for everyone. The code was for everyone. Heck at one point the logo was for everyone. But then, Red Hat spun off Fedora to live in the land of Socialism and decided to adopt as much of a Republican stance as a Linux OS could. We're not talking "classic Republicanism". We're talking "neo Republicanism". Red Hat was now about bottom line. Red Hat was about big business and sell sell sell. It's a market and markets are there to conquer. Red Hat Linux = Republicans.

    Ubuntu: There's no other party that's as truly "feel good" as the Green Party. And that's where Ubuntu lands. Just look at their logo - a heads-up view of a group of people hugging one another. It's actually quite good - it works. It makes most of us go "I want to use Ubuntu because I want to be a part of peace." I'm not mocking Ubuntu. Peace is a beautiful thing. Ubuntu is as beautiful a thing as an OS can be. I feel good when I use Ubuntu. Why? Take a look at the very definition of Ubuntu from the wiki:

    Ubuntu, pronounced /ùbúntú/, is a sub-Saharan African ethic or humanist ideology focusing on people's allegiances and relations with each other. The word has its origin in the Bantu languages of Southern Africa. Ubuntu is seen as a traditional African concept.

    How can Ubuntu NOT be green party politics?

    Debian: Independent. Debian is bare bones. Even the Debian site is bereft of anything fancy. Debian just wants to be Debian. Debian wants to think for itself and make it's own choices. Debian walks its own path.

    FreeBSD: They have a cute lil' devil for a mascot. And that lil' devil hides behind an enormously powerful, stable operating system that, more than likely, powers half the worlds everything…without the world knowing it. FreeBSD has to be The Labor Party. The Labor Party sees that both the Democrats and the Republicans have failed the working people. FreeBSD will NOT fail the working people.

    Mandriva: Mandriva takes the desktop and makes it shiny and sexy. Mandriva's name flows off the tongue like Ricardo Montalban saying "Welcome To Fantasy Island." And Mandriva is neither Red Hat nor is it Debian. Mandriva is of it's own. But yet - it does have rpm inside it's inner workings. So it's somewhat of a chameleon. Mandriva, I give you the Libertarian party: the party that makes politics sexy without being either democrat or republican.

    Slackware: Slackware is the only Linux disto bold enough to have a link on their main site called "Propaganda". Without a doubt, Slackware is the true Socialist Action party representative. The Socialist Action Party opposes the Democrats and Republicans, all capitalist political parties, and all capitalist governments and their representatives everywhere. Just like Slackware users oppose most other Linux users as poseurs.

    Fedora Core: I have to say FC is the closest thing Linux has to Democrats. Fedora Core wants to be the OS of the people but be on the cutting edge. The Democrats want to push technology into every avenue they can - resulting in many, many advances helping to save the country. Fedora Core always comes out of the box a bit buggy, but eventually, if given enough time and help, it will get the job done.

    Windows: I had to slip it in there. And even though I've tried very hard to come up with a political party to associate with Windows, I just can't. The Republican party has already been used…oh wait…it's politics and we all know that politicians, given enough time, will become corrupt and simply fail to get any job done. Politicians will toot their own horn even though the public sees right through them. Politicians really only care about getting re-elected. Politicians are generally very wealthy but, in most cases, were handed their wealth either through family or through marriage. So Windows - you're simply a politician.

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    MS has a pretty long lifecycle in store for XP, I think, but will actively stop developing it in...2012 or something? I don't know. Meh.

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    I like Unbuntu, but I prefer Vista, only because most things are not supported and you have download things like codecs.

    If you just want to try it use Wubi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ludatha View Post
    I like Unbuntu, but I prefer Vista, only because most things are not supported and you have download things like codecs.

    If you just want to try it use Wubi
    Just like Vista basic, Ubuntu does not have mpeg/DVD codecs out of the box, but try and play a file and you are prompted to download the tainted codecs, thats all automatic since 7.10.

    Also you can just download the ubuntu installer CD which will install a live CD version which can also be used to install the system, a great way to make sure your hardware is all supported before taking the plunge!

    As an every-day debian/ubuntu user I can say the only things I really miss are flash MX and photoshop (please dont say GIMP, I use it but only for real simple stuff) , I also need to run MyOB till I finish my own package so all of those run in a virtual XP machine + have Vista and 2K as well for support troubleshooting.

    As a plus to 7.10 , all my printers were installed automatically (Network Brother Laser MFC and USB Brother Mono Laser) and by automatically I mean just that, I was not even asked to install drivers, Ubuntu just did it (most HP/Brother/Epsons seem to be supported out of the box)

    Vista (even with its far better device support than XP) could not manage that
    resistance is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by firepages View Post
    Just like Vista basic, Ubuntu does not have mpeg/DVD codecs out of the box, but try and play a file and you are prompted to download the tainted codecs, thats all automatic since 7.10.

    Also you can just download the ubuntu installer CD which will install a live CD version which can also be used to install the system, a great way to make sure your hardware is all supported before taking the plunge!

    As an every-day debian/ubuntu user I can say the only things I really miss are flash MX and photoshop (please dont say GIMP, I use it but only for real simple stuff) , I also need to run MyOB till I finish my own package so all of those run in a virtual XP machine + have Vista and 2K as well for support troubleshooting.

    As a plus to 7.10 , all my printers were installed automatically (Network Brother Laser MFC and USB Brother Mono Laser) and by automatically I mean just that, I was not even asked to install drivers, Ubuntu just did it (most HP/Brother/Epsons seem to be supported out of the box)

    Vista (even with its far better device support than XP) could not manage that
    Woah!
    Don't think for a second I like Vista, If I could run Photoshop, Dreamweaver and play all games like Crysis on Ubuntu then I would think Windows is the worst thing ever invented to mankind. One of the main reasons I hate Windows is because they have taken over the world. Ask some people what Linux is and they will either say a cat or they don't know. It's like:

    100% know what windows is
    40% know what a mac is
    5% know what linux is
    (randomly guessing but you see my point)

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    That kinda of mentality could be applied to capitalism, but that works, don't it?

    I love Ubuntu, but I find its lack of device support ridiculous. For some reason, the Live CD detects my wireless but, with the installed version it only does 1 time out of ten. That's really annoying. But otherwise it's a pleasure to use.

    You have to give it to Vista, though. It looks so much more stylish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyanLight View Post
    You have to give it to Vista, though. It looks so much more stylish.
    lol, until you see $anyLinux running beryl or compiz-fusion and some desklets, kind of puts Vista to shame


    @Ludatha: Not that there is anything wrong with liking Vista !... there are a couple of things in it that have improved since XP... sadly so many that have gone backwards as well.

    &the only reason Desktop linux is eventually getting usable for mainstream users is because so many distros now try to emulate Windows... a form of flattery I believe
    resistance is...

    MVC is the current buzz in web application architectures. It comes from event-driven desktop application design and doesn't fit into web application design very well. But luckily nobody really knows what MVC means, so we can call our presentation layer separation mechanism MVC and move on. (Rasmus Lerdorf)

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    I think XP functions very, very well, even if it does smash in my face sometimes.

    I think it's probably more to do with moving away from the command line, though. That's one of the main things I don't really like about Linux, but I can live with it. The moving towards the common user is a good idea: how else will Linux succeed? People don't want to do things a different way.

    I find the cube thing almost as irritating as Vista's (thankfully more hidden) "Switch between windows" function--although admittedly very fun to play with. For about a minute.


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