ASP certification

[ahmedsoliman]

what is the best asp certification in the market? ciw or MCAD or what???

[whammy]

Well, I'm going for an MCAD, and I can tell you that an MCSD is one step above that. (Two more tests). It's also like twice as expensive! But I'll go for that as soon as I get this one, probably. :)

CIW is Java related (not ASP), so I guess it depends on what kind of work you're looking for.

[ahmedsoliman]

i hope to work as web developer (asp,aqlserver),i have certefied ciw (410,420) ,after few monthes i will have master in web design in ciw, so i'm looking to have another certification but scope on asp or asp.net.

another question , is it good for me as a beginner to learn oraqle now or sql server will be better because of the market need?

i mean many hosts support sqlserver, but rearly for oraqle,so sql server will be usefull at least now.
otherwise, many pepole say oraqle is the future, and it will be the most wanted..... iam confused :confused:

[BigDaddy]

I'm attending classes right now for my MCSD. Whammy is right when he says the MCAD is also very helpful. I would say Microsoft certified developing of any kind is a good thing. "We are Microsoft, resistance is futile...you will be assimilated....."

I personally would say that if you're using ASP, then SQL server would be a good match. Companies who use ASP most likely already have a preference for Microsoft products, as they are probably already running IIS, which goes well with ASP.

[Mhtml]

Where can you do these? I'd like to become an ASP certified thingy type person...I'd also like to become certified in other things like flash as well as cgi and php when I get better at those two.:confused:

[allida77]

If the company I work for would pay for certs than I would get them otherwise IMO it is just paper. Experience outweighs certifications two fold. But every bit helps though if you are searching for work. As far as what a better db is that is always up for a debate. Personally I would work on designing relational and normalized db and understanding how to retrieve the data with SQL statements. From what I have heard of the MCAD and MCSD is that those mofos are hard! Dont mean to offend about certifications but I am not a joat kind of person.

[BigDaddy]

Nah...I understand completely. I'm in a position where I can take the classes, so I am. And you're right, no one will care what your certification is--if you have 4-6 years of experience doing it. I don't have that experience, though.

From what I've heard, the MCSE used to mean a lot more than it does now. The MCAD or MCSD are the same thing. Microsoft is now making an effort to give them a reputation of being special again.

I just know that a year from now, I personally will know a whole lot more about .NET, and have a much better shot at getting a job using it, than I do now, or would know if I just tried to study it on my own. It's the future of ASP programming. I don't want to be left out in the cold.

[whammy]

Same here. :)

[ahmedsoliman]

thanks for all, i know that no one will care what my certification is--if i have 4-6 years of experience doing it. but i havn't experience so certification like mcsd or mcsa will assest for having a good jop .

[whammy]

I agree, about the "just a piece of paper" thing, and my company isn't going to pay for my certification either (well, they will pay a small part of it, AFTER I get certified... but I digress).

I also agree with BigDaddy - that piece of paper might make the difference between someone with the exact same experience as me getting a job, or me getting it since I have the same experience AND a "piece of paper".

Besides, .NET seems a little involved to learn on your own - not like ASP or PHP, which are fairly easy to learn. And that's the future of this stuff most likely - who wouldn't rather make their own classes and run compiled code? I know you can do that in Java, but there just don't seem to be as many jobs (at least that I've seen) where it's used.

No longer will "Microsoft" web developers be "pseudo programmers". ;)