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select sires
10-21-2002, 06:05 PM
since i've asked for so much help from this forum :o i figure its only fair to ask the opinion of the overall site.

as of now, my only concern with it is different screen resolutions. it functions perfectly on 1024, but if it is viewed with say, 800x600, the whole site goes to hell. From what I've been told, thats the problem with frames.

I just don't know how to fix that problem though. Should I make a second 'section,' where I can direct people with different resolutions?


ok, any help is appreciated, any criticism on the site, you know the drill.

SS

select sires
10-21-2002, 06:06 PM
whoops.

review (http://www.foralltimeva.com)

cg9com
10-21-2002, 07:27 PM
the site is cut off, (800x600)
maybe on the enter page you could have an option to enter the page in your own screen resolution and make a few different size pages, or have an autoload javascript to direct you to a certain page.
http://www.javascriptkit.com/script/cut162.shtml

i cant fully review it tho, cause its not viewed right for me :(
but it does look good as far as graphics and layout.
keep up the good work :)

PS:heres my take on the redirect

<script language="javaScript" type="text/javascript">
if (screen.width==800||screen.height==600)window.location.replace("webpage.htm")
else if (screen.width==1024||screen.height==768?)
window.location.replace("webpage.htm")
<!-- cant think of the others! -->
else
window.location.replace("webpage.htm")
</script>

ronaldb66
10-22-2002, 09:21 AM
If using frames ever had an advantage, it would be the ease with which you can adapt to different window sizes! If you can't manage that, i hate to tell you this, but then surely you're are doing something wrong.
Since your layout has an abundancy of unused space (that is, not holding content), i really can't imagine why it couldn't be made to fit everything up from 640*480.
By the way: some of the pages put content in a frame lined up to the far left of the window; text starts here on the very pixel next to the chrome. I'd suggest adding a little margin around the text; i kept trying to look behind the chrome to see if there was any more text there... :D

murphyz
10-22-2002, 10:01 AM
This is being a bit picky, but the main links (news.merch.links.etc) are not in line with each other and would look better if they were.

Mxx

tommysphone
10-22-2002, 04:16 PM
I don't like the link colouring on mouseover, text hard to see but hey, we can't have everything.

Revelle
10-22-2002, 05:32 PM
This is being a bit picky, but the main links (news.merch.links.etc) are not in line with each other and would look better if they were.

I agree. Why not just pick a specific size and then do a cut + paste of each image into this new specifically sized graphic page, and save each with that size. And-ah, I hope you understand what I mean :D

Also, I noticed that your copyright after the main page is butt-up against the left side of the window... suggestion- put some space there :)

And, while browsing through the links, the little scrollboxes that show up -- same situation about being butt-up against the sides
I'm sure it's still in the works and there's an alignment issue going on.

Bio
Lyrics
Merch
Images

select sires
10-22-2002, 10:56 PM
thanks for all the replies, its all very helpful.

so right now

- alignment of links
- borders and keeping the text from coming 'butt-up' against them
- and about the screen res.
- either redirect for dif. screen resolutions
or
- find a way to make it fit, like was said in:

If using frames ever had an advantage, it would be the ease with which you can adapt to different window sizes! If you can't manage that, i hate to tell you this, but then surely you're are doing something wrong.

The only think I don't understand with this is, since the backgrounds of some frames are images, won't they get distorted by all the different resolutions?


thanks again

ronaldb66
10-23-2002, 03:27 PM
Yeah, after posting that reaction i figured your hassle with all those frames comes from the desire to have a really intricate, artsy background. The trick here usually is to have fixed background images in fixed width or height, respectively, around the edges of the window the frameset is in, and somewhere in between "stretching" frames (no fixed width/height) with a sort of neutral background to match both ends.
Analysing your layout, i'd say:

Have a top frame stretch the whole window width, fixed height, containing page header and nav buttons;
beneath the top, have a fixed width, stretchy height frame for the sub-nav;
next to it, have a stretchy width and height center frame for content;
when desired, next to thát a stretchy height, fixed width frame to finish the background design (which is pretty neutral at this point);
lastly, have a full window-strechy-width, fixed height frame to finish the background design in the "nether regions".

A quick, bare-bones frameset layout as described would look something like this (unnecessary garbage left out):
<frameset rows="200,*,150" ...>
<frame name="top" ...>
<frameset cols="150,*,200" ...>
<frame name="subnav" ...>
<frame name="content" ...>
<frame name="right" ...>
</frameset>
<frame name="bottom" ...>
</frameset>
I chose two nested framesets, the outer one dividing the window up in three rows, and the inner one dividing up the middle row into three columns.
If you fix the leafy backgrounds in the sub-nav and content frames, the background design should hold up nicely.
Good luck!

P.S. Last remark: you sometimes need to adjust your design to the technical possibilties, and not try to force technical impossibilities to fit your design...

select sires
10-23-2002, 04:31 PM
P.S. Last remark: you sometimes need to adjust your design to the technical possibilties, and not try to force technical impossibilities to fit your design...

I'm slowly learning this.
Thanks so much for the help, I'll look into how I can adjust the background images to fit that layout.

SS

vkidv
10-23-2002, 05:52 PM
it is a cool site, and good job...all looked right, but i agree with some wasted space...you could put a title or a logo at the top, but the site is probably not finished...

maybe it was just me, but it took me a few secounds to find the enter button to get in, i was stuck with a grey thing and did not know where to go....

i give your site a good 7-8/10
:) :) :) :)

select sires
10-24-2002, 12:09 AM
7/8 is a good start to me!!
and i'll work on a logo, maybe some lyrics or something..

ronaldb66
10-24-2002, 10:38 AM
SS,

i don't know if i mentioned it yet, but it took me a while to realise that the text in the left frame about halfway across the page actually were links, that is, untill i accidentally moused over them. It might be an idea to make them stand out as links a bit more, or maybe i'm just thick... :( Anyway, thought i'd mention it.