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Aussie-LST
03-10-2006, 09:32 AM
Hi im 13 and I have a little mini website buisness what do you think of my site?
www.aaronpricewebdesigns.co.nr
Anyone interested in getting a web site made
Pennimus
03-10-2006, 10:39 AM
1. Looking at the splash page, I thought this could be quite a nice design, BUT...
2. You have a splash page - why?
3. I'm sure apple won't be pleased to note you've stolen their logo.
4. Then I got into the site, and it looks horribly unprofessional.
5. There are errors (http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aaronpricewebdesigns.co.nr%2F) in your code.
6. I won't list point by point on the design, I think everything needs improving.
But given all this, at 13 I wouldn't expect you to create a masterpiece. At least you're on the way and you have plenty of time to improve :thumbsup:
mark87
03-10-2006, 12:36 PM
I really dislike the fact that people have to use their age as an excuse sometimes...
Anyway, ditto what Pennimus said.
Try changing the font for a nice sans-serif font like Verdana.
NancyJ
03-10-2006, 01:35 PM
But given all this, at 13 I wouldn't expect you to create a masterpiece.
I think Error 404 (http://geoffers.uni.cc/)might take exception to that (and if not, then he should ;) )
Being young isnt an excuse - http://www.ywda.org/
Ranger56
03-10-2006, 03:51 PM
Why are you hosting your images on Image Shack?
mark87
03-10-2006, 04:03 PM
Another thing, and sorry I don't mean to vent all of my frustration wholey at you Aussie-LST; but why do so many people think that now they can make any old website, they can suddenly become a web design company!? :o :(
Mike Darling
03-10-2006, 08:42 PM
my eyes hurt after starting at the "window blind" effect through all your website.
Pennimus
03-10-2006, 09:14 PM
Another thing, and sorry I don't mean to vent all of my frustration wholey at you Aussie-LST; but why do so many people think that now they can make any old website, they can suddenly become a web design company!?
Ha ha, yeah so true. Thing is though, the general public is either so miseducated about web design or has such poor taste that thousands of truly appalling designers out there get work on a regular basis (not aimed at anyone here in particular).
I often get handed websites built by others to manage and promote, sites that have cost thousands of pounds for the client and are nothing more than pure frontpage generated garbage. The last one was a classic - as well as the standard 6+ levels of nested tables, every single paragraph was defined as being in the English language, and then also had a span applied to it telling the browser that it was - wait for it - in the English language!
/off topic
Single Paradox
03-11-2006, 09:50 PM
I think Error 404 (http://geoffers.uni.cc/)might take exception to that (and if not, then he should ;) )
Being young isnt an excuse - http://www.ywda.org/
I resent that, at least I know javascript :p
Anyway, the site is alright, not a big fan of the grayness and the horizontal lines though. The navigation has a mouseover, but not a mouseout. At least it doesn't work for me. I think the content should have a background color to break up the lines and the gray. Otherwise, looks good.
NickPresta
03-12-2006, 12:06 AM
I have permantetly blocked your site from being downloaded on my computer.
Design wise, Splash page, ugly design, stolen Apple logo, MUSIC TELLING ME I NEED TO CLICK ENTER TO ENTER, missing borders, navigation text blends in with background on hover, horizontal lines EVERYWHERE hurt my eyes.
Code wise, uses frames, <!-- www.freedomain.co.nr --> lol, <META name="revisit-after" content="9999999999999999999999999 days"> LOL, images hosted on imageshack, no type attribute with your favicon, multiple <head> sections, <style> tags inside the body, no </head> tag, depercated tags, javascript instead of CSS, tables, tons of empty divisions, divitis, etc
Now moving on,
Do you know anything about being a web host? And you charge 15.95/year for .com domain registration? Why? 99% of all other registars change less than 10 dollars and GoDaddy charges $8.95 and less. Do you know how to fix issues that will arise when you have people using your server? Know anything about *nix? How about security?
It really bothers me when I see someone just make a website and think they can be a host (or reseller host), a domain registar and a design company.
The sad thing is, people will actually give you their service instead of other people who deserve it...
Konrad
03-12-2006, 02:10 AM
Your background makes it hard to read anything.
ns1987
03-12-2006, 03:50 AM
IIRC, you're not allowed to own a business at 13 without written parental consent. >_>
brett7481
03-12-2006, 04:11 AM
Yeah, I think I would have to second, or third, everything discussed so far on this thread. Also, why do you promote the fact that you use Dreamweaver? I personally code everything by hand, and if I were hiring someone... that's something I would look for.
I also tried looking at your recent projects, but they all too too long to load on my dial-up connection that I closed them before they could fully load.
The good news, you're thirteen... you have a LONG TIME to learn, and I would definatly learn some stuff before moving forward. Learn CSS, Learn proper coding, learn graphic design, learn market researchm learn basic web design priciples. Design pages for your friends for free, design free web templates, but don't charge anyone until you get better.... you would be ripping them off.
Ranger56
03-12-2006, 07:37 AM
Also, that "Click enter to [something]" clip is totally awesome and necessary. Doesn't interupt my music at all. And it's totally not annoying.
Also, that "Click enter to [something]" clip is totally awesome and necessary. Doesn't interupt my music at all. And it's totally not annoying.
rofl, thats probably the best use of sarcasm I've seen ina while. lol @ if you really meant for it to be 'necessary'
you made me install quicktime just to see what the fuss was about... :( lol 'click enter to proceed'
hey Aussie-LST,
after the hail storm of negativity in here I thought i would drop some optimism on you. lol..
When you design a website dont just throw some tables in there and make a basic menu and type in some text and call it a website...
plan it out like you stated in your 'prices' page. Think about, and i mean some serious thinking.. more than 5 minutes lol, about what could possibly make your website original and different from all the rest. What unique element from your website will your visitors remember when they leave? will it be your color scheme? will it be your logo? how about your layout design? What could you possibly do in your web design that would separate you from all the rest? Im sure you could think of something. ;) Also if your screen resolution is 800x600 you should design the website to use up the whole screen. people these days use much higher resolutions.
Hope you will look forward and keep building to higher grounds.
startsphere
03-14-2006, 11:51 PM
YEs i just about second evrything said here
Aussie-LST
03-15-2006, 09:36 PM
ok thanks guys some good info there i have designed a new site tell me what you think
www.aaronpricewebdesigns.co.nr
mark87
03-15-2006, 09:55 PM
Well at least you haven't run away from all the comments! :)
New site is much better - you still have some empty div's there though and deprecated tags (such as 'align'). Also, the menu confuses me...
Ranger56
03-15-2006, 11:56 PM
That "we do banners" thing makes the page too wide for 1024x768.
Single Paradox
03-16-2006, 12:02 AM
You refered to the wrong ids when you made the mouseover. The button underneath the one I mouseover changes. Take a look at the ids and see if they match ;)
Pennimus
03-16-2006, 01:26 AM
I'm not loving the grayscale at all. There's minimalistic design and then there's drab. Grayscale can work but only if the majority of the screen is white rather than gray, and even then you're sacrificing a huge amount of usability. I just don't see the point, why shy away from colour when it's so useful?
I think you need to take serious look at your font use as well. In fact everything. Although this represents an improvement over the last version, I still can't believe anyone would ever employ you to design a site. From the gray, to the blocky layout, the shoddy font use and the pointless photo of a keyboard... none of it shows any promise at all.
I don't get it either, the bliss hair website in your recent work shows you have the ability to make a simple, considered design that works reasonably well (apart from the background music of course) - have you completely lost your ability since doing that site - or were you simply given a print brochure or preconceived design to copy?
jpamorgan
03-16-2006, 05:29 AM
The color scheme is really bad, fix it as soon as possible.
Aussie-LST
03-16-2006, 07:15 AM
Hi the nav bar works in fire fox and safari? I like the greys, each to their own (grey is a safe colour)
i am working on the we now do banners for those with smaller screens.
:thumbsup:
Aussie-LST
03-16-2006, 07:17 AM
I'm not loving the grayscale at all. There's minimalistic design and then there's drab. Grayscale can work but only if the majority of the screen is white rather than gray, and even then you're sacrificing a huge amount of usability. I just don't see the point, why shy away from colour when it's so useful?
I think you need to take serious look at your font use as well. In fact everything. Although this represents an improvement over the last version, I still can't believe anyone would ever employ you to design a site. From the gray, to the blocky layout, the shoddy font use and the pointless photo of a keyboard... none of it shows any promise at all.
I don't get it either, the bliss hair website in your recent work shows you have the ability to make a simple, considered design that works reasonably well (apart from the background music of course) - have you completely lost your ability since doing that site - or were you simply given a print brochure or preconceived design to copy?
This is exactly what my client wanted and yes that is what i have to copy and he is happy with it also it is not finished, I have put under construction
trendybox
03-16-2006, 09:23 PM
not bad for a 13 year old... but I think you might have trouble getting work. I've seen worse sites made by "professionals" that have been making websites for 5+ years but the fact is that most clients would be very weary of hiring you due to your age. My suggestion is that you try doing some sites for non-profit organizations for free. churches and local organizations make great clients for practice because they don't have a big budget and they are really good publicity. I have been working on a site for a church and so far the webmaster that will be maintaining it has given my name out to about 6 people in the past two months. If you get a bunch of these clients you will build your portfolio and gain experience so that when you are ready you'll be able to stomp any competition around.
good luck, don't get discouraged, and keep at it! :thumbsup:
Aussie-LST
03-16-2006, 09:33 PM
Thanks mate!!! I dont really tell anyone my age untill they can see what im doing ect... My cousin has been finding work for me too i am about to do a job for a coffee shop.
Thanks:thumbsup:
trendybox
03-16-2006, 09:35 PM
on the design....
first off... why do you have the navigation labelled "navigation" ? it should be obvious.
secondly... you should look at some of your word choices like: "Web Hosting
I don't really have a specific place I get my webhost from I find the cheapest for the client at the time. " i wouldn't include this on my site if i didn't have a standard price to show.
your name at the top is too small.
your button roll-overs don't work properly which you already know. if you can't fix it, it is better to not have it on there. its better to have plain buttons then to have buttons that say the wrong word on the roll-over.
there are problems with your background showing on some of the tables. i didn't actually look at the code by if you are using css you might want to go through and make sure it is all coded properly.
on a larger resolution (1152 x 856) your banner doesn't extend to the right side. You should consider using a percentage (width="100%") to make sure that it goes all the way.
the buttons don't appear to be the same shapes... that might just be my eyes but the contact button seems to have flat corners where the rest are rounded.
As far as the issue about color... i agree that it could use color. i have a set of color schemes available for you to use at http://www.trendybox.net/trendtorials.php?art=colors.htm (scroll to the bottom of the page to see the chart) this is also a brief guide to using colors effectively.
that's all i have for now although i'm sure i could keep going... but that should give you plenty to work on. :cool:
Aussie-LST
03-17-2006, 08:59 AM
Ok I think i have the nav bar fixed for those with pc's and ei
www.aaronpricewebdesigns.co.nr
Mr. Bubble
03-17-2006, 11:32 AM
i too am 13 and design websites
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