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N_R_D
01-25-2006, 08:39 PM
www.dp-labs.com/ea

Just the basic layout and framing .... there will be a better BG tile ;)

Other than that what do you guys think?

mark87
01-25-2006, 10:05 PM
Looks ok, although a lot of people here don't often welcome the use of Flash wholey for websites!

The menu design is nice and unique.

Not sure about the bottom bit, the font doesn't seem to fit in; and the whole bottom section looks as if it could be from a totally different site.

The coding is a bit of a mess; the doctype is incomplete (throwing IE into quirks mode) and you're using a table based layout with old deprecated tags such as 'bgcolor'.

N_R_D
01-25-2006, 10:15 PM
You know .... I didnt even write that code :)

It is a paste from another site that is fairly old....

Guess its time to update it.

brett7481
01-25-2006, 11:30 PM
The menu is unique, but I don't like flash sites. I often times browser from an old, almost dead computer with a slow connection... and half the time when I see a flash site, I skip it. 50% of countries out there still only offer 14.4kbs connections... that makes your flash site, useless to those people.

Besides that, I second the table thing. I am also not loving the fact that you apparently took another site's code. That in my book is stealing, unless you had permission from the site owner.

I'm also not sure about the bottom bit. Raise that up into the first page view of the site or ditch it.

N_R_D
01-25-2006, 11:43 PM
Stolen from one of my older sites ....

and the bottom was just to take up some space for larger browsers ...

I am sorry for posting a flash site........

brett7481
01-26-2006, 04:14 AM
You know .... I didnt even write that code :)

It is a paste from another site that is fairly old....

Guess its time to update it.

Sorry, I assumed when you said you didn't write the code, that meant you didn't write the code at any point.

bpeh
01-26-2006, 05:39 AM
hi, I like your unique design and navigation. This is a coding forum, so obviously people are more concern with your codes. your site is about arts, photography. to me graphics is a major thing in your site and i see the use of flash appropriate. you definitely going in the right direction with the concept of "aerial". probably need to work more on "photography". i wouldnt worry so much about the codes at the moment....but that is just me.

nice start.

TheShaner
01-26-2006, 04:55 PM
I really like the design and navigation. This site isn't totally Flash, so I'm not sure where people are getting that. If you create a bottom footer that has the same links as your flash navigation, then you'll be set!

Yes, the code behind the structure of your site is deprecated, but a little tweaking here and there and learning now to validate (http://validator.w3.org) your page, you'll have a nice looking site that will be accessible to people without flash.

Like bpeh said, since your site is about art and such, Flash is very appropriate for this use. It allows people to show your creativity. The main concern here is if Flash is not installed, can someone still navigate your site and not totally ruin their experience? Now, if you code it correctly, you can actually have an image map that looks the same as your Flash layout (although you'll have to modify the navigation a bit since an image won't be able to have that moving wheel) and if someone doesn't have Flash, the imagemap would be layered right behind it and they can use the imagemap instead (an image map is an image that has certain sections of it hyperlinked using a coordinates to map the buttons... PhotoShop and other programs can do this easily).

There's an article on AListApart (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/) that explains how to have substitute text and images that will display if the Flash cannot display. This should work well for you. If you provide a nice footer to finish off the page with added navigation, I'd say you'd have a nice site starting.

-Shane

N_R_D
01-26-2006, 06:46 PM
WOW Shaner !!!

I love that idea !!

THanks for that... that is really the reason to post this up.

And hey, is there a resource for validating flash sites ..

I always thought that the object nonsense would NEVER validate, so I didnt even try.

TheShaner
01-26-2006, 07:21 PM
Np. If you read (and reread to fully understand) that link I gave you for AListApart, you'll actually find that it should validate to all HTML and XHTML doctypes (i think). Object and params are supported in them. Embed is the problem tag, which that article explains how to still validate and support flash, while not using the embed tag. Definitely read it over a few times so you get a good grasp on it.

As for a resource for validating flash sites, yes. W3's validator, which i also gave you the link for, validates the markup surrounding the flash. If you follow the technique in AListApart, the flash code should validate. If your Flash code is the only thing that doesn't validate, don't worry about it. As long as it plays on most browsers and the rest of your markup validates, you'll be fine. Eventually (and hopefully) browsers will find common ground and code for displaying flash properly.

Now, if you mean validating what is inside your Flash, that's a moot point. What you programmed your Flash to do is independent from the browser (as far as I know).

-Shane