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Green Beast
01-16-2006, 10:50 PM
Hi guys,

Check this one out. Though it wasn't commissioned as an "accessible" site, it's highly accessible unless I'm missing something: Thompson/Center Association (http://thompsoncenterassoc.org/). There's a lot going on under the hood as the site features several users configurable elements. It has custom error pages, two forms, style changer on the site info page. All it needs is the client's content (it's like pulling teeth sometimes I swear). What do you think? Did I achieve the stylish accessibility so important to me and the gang over at Accessites.org (http://accessites.org/)?

Thanks.
Mike

PcMan
01-16-2006, 11:19 PM
you are missing the english version of that site...;)

other than that, niceee good job

Green Beast
01-16-2006, 11:28 PM
you are missing the english version of that site...;)

other than that, niceee good job

Lol, true that.

lansing
01-16-2006, 11:55 PM
On the contact page the option for the reason of contact...you have lots of "Option not yet available" options.

harbingerOTV
01-17-2006, 12:11 AM
so the asscebility factor:

You can only go up one text size until the footer breaks like crazy. The image in the top right of the content gets covered up by a 2x text resize. It gets a little hard to read.

Graphically it looks nice. There are some simple layout graphic bugs that I noticed right away.

your wrapback.jpg is not trimmed right. On the left side it has those little 'bumps' where I would assume it supposed to be smooth.

The footer image doesn't line up at all. The border around it is a different color and the shadows are lighter.

i dig the navigation. The rollovers are nice ;)

is 'siteinfo' one word?

Green Beast
01-17-2006, 12:12 AM
On the contact page the option for the reason of contact...you have lots of "Option not yet available" options.

Yeah, I'm waiting on the options. ;-) It's like that because it's the contect form that comes with my CMS. I will remove the Not Availables (I'll comment them out) once I get the "Availables" from the client. I'm hoping for tommorrow. Putting the content in and such should go really fast. It's set up for that and I predefined all the HTML that'll be used in the CSS.

Mike

Green Beast
01-17-2006, 01:03 AM
so the asscebility factor:

You can only go up one text size until the footer breaks like crazy. The image in the top right of the content gets covered up by a 2x text resize. It gets a little hard to read.

What's your browser and default text size? For me, the default look using Georgia as the font, the text apprears to be what looks like 12pt type, this is on a 1024x768 res on a 15" monitor. For me, I can enlarge it 2x (Ctrl++) in Firefox 1.0.7 and IE 6.2 (max), and the footer breaks on the third enlargement... but it's really big at that point. (I check in Opera too but text enlargement is not applicable).

The image on the right is a little tricky. It's a background for a div that is configurable by the client. They can add borders, colors, backgrounds, widths, height... all the onpage CSS viewable in the source code. It's something new I'm trying. I can fix it with an em of height, but I'm curious about your settings and whatnot. I havemn't yet been able to replicate it as you describe.


Graphically it looks nice. There are some simple layout graphic bugs that I noticed right away.

your wrapback.jpg is not trimmed right. On the left side it has those little 'bumps' where I would assume it supposed to be smooth.

Thanks. Yeah you're right. I see them too.


The footer image doesn't line up at all. The border around it is a different color and the shadows are lighter.

Yeah, I could make it better for sure.


i dig the navigation. The rollovers are nice ;)


Thanks


is 'siteinfo' one word?

Lol, it is now... I always make it two, don't know what I was thinking. Fortunately I can make a solitary edit to fix that site-wide. :)

Mike

harbingerOTV
01-17-2006, 02:37 AM
What's your browser and default text size? For me, the default look using Georgia as the font, the text apprears to be what looks like 12pt type, this is on a 1024x768 res on a 15" monitor. For me, I can enlarge it 2x (Ctrl++) in Firefox 1.0.7 and IE 6.2 (max), and the footer breaks on the third enlargement... but it's really big at that point. (I check in Opera too but text enlargement is not applicable).

Hey Mike,

Im running FF at 1152x864 my default text is Times New Roman at 16pt on a 19" monitor. Since my default is 4pt larger I can see why the difference. Since I have my FF set at defaults (from the install) the 2x text enlarge would seem the max for most users as well.

-Alan

rmedek
01-17-2006, 02:42 AM
I really like this site. The texture, drop-shadows, and palette all work really well to create this very "thick" and dimensional look. The color palette is great for the hunting theme, too.

Code is clean, looks good except for this: <div class="hr"><hr /></div> What's that about?

All in all I think it's fantastic, although you should fix that slicing job Harbinger mentions above. ;)

Green Beast
01-17-2006, 03:10 AM
Thanks Alan.

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I really like this site. The texture, drop-shadows, and palette all work really well to create this very "thick" and dimensional look. The color palette is great for the hunting theme, too.

Code is clean, looks good except for this: <div class="hr"><hr /></div> What's that about?

All in all I think it's fantastic, although you should fix that slicing job Harbinger mentions above. ;)

Thanks rmedek,

The div hr is a little trick that I tend to use a lot, though it's not being put to good use on this site. I write display : none for hr in the CSS, that leaves me free to do all sorts of cool stuff with the div while still retaining the hr in the code. It's mostly used for doing image backgrounds for hr like I did on my portfolio with the 3-green-dot hrs. Admittedly, though, on this site I could have just styled the hr.

Mike

zro@rtv
01-17-2006, 11:40 AM
wow. real nice... but yr stuff is usually up to snuff.

like the menu alot.
All the graphic stuff is cool on each page.
nice clean code and everything everything people mentioned before.

does seem like theres some color differences here and there tho, but so subtle its nit picking, or perhaps intentional. border on bottom of footer, brown bg between column and rest, and green in top of menu... but maybe its just my eyes,...

at first i was gonna say making the brown bg darker would maybe make the content column stand out more... maybe even a wood like effect, but prolly it'd be too much and wouldnt mesh with the header...

solid work. very cool.

(and this is awesome http://thompsoncenterassoc.org/gbcms_images/login_beast_on.jpg)

Green Beast
01-17-2006, 02:40 PM
Thanks man.

Probably today if I get caught up I will take out the footback and wrapback and try to fiddle with them a bit. The main problem is the welding I had to do. Taking the various boxes and shapes and bringing them together. It ended up doing jeweler's working at 800 x mag touching up the welds pixel by pixel. :)

It was fun actually.

Hehe, you saw my CMS's gatekeeper. He looked back at you after you woke him up by poking him with your pointer I see. lol.

Mike

Graft-Creative
01-18-2006, 10:03 PM
Yep, looks good - definately has your mark on it, which is no bad thing.

My only criticism really would be that to me the bevels and drop shadows are a little heavy handed - and appear to have that 'default' photoshop look to them that I'm always ranting on about :D Also I'm not too keen on the Elastoplast colour you've used for the background.

The header montage is very nice - kinda reminds me of Andrew's site: http://leftjustified.net site, maybe it's all the wood :)

As for accessibility - and I'm just playing devils advocate here - is it such a big issue with a site like this: I would never have had shooting down as a sport particularly popular with vision impaired people?

All in all a good job, obviously a lot of thought and effort has gone into it, and it looks really good, apart from my gripes about bevels/shadows.

Green Beast
01-18-2006, 11:28 PM
The header montage is very nice - kinda reminds me of Andrew's site: http://leftjustified.net site, maybe it's all the wood :)

Thanks man. I take this as a big compliment. I've seen the left justified site before, a long time ago it seems, and I love it.

Mike