New site - NeverStudy.com

[PcMan]

Hey guess wat?!?!?

I just launched my site.. www.neverstudy.com please take a look and give me some advice on how i can improve it. BTW I launched it like 3 days ago and my page rank is 4!!
HURRAY!

Thanks guys,
PcMan

[zro@rtv]

design's lookin clean.
...not valid (http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1&uri=http://www.neverstudy.com/index.html)...
you are gunna style the forum into lookin like the main page, right?
also, the otehr pages could use some flare, but i assume tahts all because u just got it up....

that editor you used isnt spitting out the most elegant of code.
the way your doing the rounded corners isnt very scalable... if you increase text size, you lose lots.

color scheme is a little bland, and the header seems a little out of place in the blandness? just a little though.. and theres something about the text, might be te font not fitting in, or the colors, or that its so flat... but its not exciting me.

not bad though.
good luck, theres my 2 cents.

[vasam]

Nice layout. But looks unfinished and blank.
I'd try to make it centered and make background differ from content background.

[harbingerOTV]

A couple things you might try looking at:

The side bar, does it have a bottom border? Looks like it does. Take it off and see if it looks better. right now there is a double edge and it doesnt look to keen to me.
The header is sort of stuck there. Maybe in the top corner of the content (both left and right side) make another curve so the header "wraps around the content box?

The rool over arrows on the links might be better the other way around. What I mean is that they have the big arrow and when you roll over them the arrow gets smaller (kind of looks like it's opulling away from the link). maybe make it small by default and on rollover get bigger. Sort of poiting at the link you roll over.

[rmedek]

Loose: opposite of tight
Lose: to cease to retain

"What's to Lose?" not "What's to Loose?" Maybe you guys DO need to study. :D

The design is pretty neat and has a lot of promise (maybe just needs to me tightened up) but the typography looks sorta amateurish and the code itself is dreadful.

[PcMan]

Loose: opposite of tight
Lose: to cease to retain

"What's to Lose?" not "What's to Loose?" Maybe you guys DO need to study. :D

The design is pretty neat and has a lot of promise (maybe just needs to me tightened up) but the typography looks sorta amateurish and the code itself is dreadful.

yup...with that code .... my page rank is 4..right?
(remember i launched it like 4 days ago)

[rmedek]

yup...with that code .... my page rank is 4..right?
(remember i launched it like 4 days ago)
Oh, well, I didn't take into consideration just how cool you were.

So please tell me what keywords I must use to see your totally amazing search engine results. And, because you've now asked for it, I'm totally going to make fun of this bunch of code right here:

<div><font color="#808080">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It's always difficult when you begin a new class that you're completely</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">uncomfortable with. Maybe it's an AP class you challenged yourself to take,</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">or a tech class that seems too foreign to you. The material maybe completely</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">senseless to you and you have no idea what the hell the teacher is saying.</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">But don't get&nbsp; nervous. Don't give up. TALK TO THE TEACHER. A hard class is</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">tolerable with an amicable, helpful teacher. An easy class is hell with a</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">teacher who does not teach. Creating a close relationship with the teacher</font></div>

<div><font color="#808080">is the most important thing to do first. Talk to the teacher, if he/she</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">notices that you are working hard and making a conscientious effort, they'll</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">help you. Ask questions! Do not feel nervous about asking a billion</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">questions a day. Nevertheless, think before you speak. If the teacher</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">already adressed the issue you're confused, ask anyways but ask in a manner</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">that will not upset the teacher. Teachers hate repeating themselves, even</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">though it may be neccessary. Stay cool in the class. If things aren't making</font></div>
<div><font color="#808080">sense, talk to the teacher.</font></div>


Oh, btw, according to your website you have a page rank of zero.

[Masterslave]

I like the design of the site but the code is a bit rubbish, sometimes you have capital tags and other times you have lowercase tags, that isn't the way it should be. ;)

Please note that this feature only works with IE 6+


And this I really don't like, so all other browsers can't login?:(
If so it's pretty bad.:eek:

[PcMan]

I like the design of the site but the code is a bit rubbish, sometimes you have capital tags and other times you have lowercase tags, that isn't the way it should be. ;)

Please note that this feature only works with IE 6+


And this I really don't like, so all other browsers can't login?:(
If so it's pretty bad.:eek:

actually i have had it tested with other browsers and they do work..but i havn't had the time to remove it...and when i do edit the site i forget..lol


Oh, btw, according to your website you have a page rank of zero.

umm...actually you are wrong....if you wanna let me take you further then please follow the following steps:

Go here : http://www.prchecker.info/check_page_rank.php
Type in http://www.neverstudy.com/
:eek:
Now tell me who is right!

infact let me show you a screenshot!

[PcMan]

how the heck do i remove this post.

[rmedek]

So please tell me what keywords I must use to see your totally amazing search engine results.

[PcMan]

So please tell me what keywords I must use to see your totally amazing search engine results.

i never said i had totally amazing search engine results....all i said was about my rank!!!

[rmedek]

Well, I (and others) mentioned that your code was dreadful. You responded sarcastically that your code didn't matter, because your page rank was so awesome (unless I've misunderstood you).

So, I'm left wondering what excuses you have to outline every individual sentence in its own div and font tags.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding why page rank is important?

[PcMan]

Well, I (and others) mentioned that your code was dreadful. You responded sarcastically that your code didn't matter, because your page rank was so awesome (unless I've misunderstood you).

So, I'm left wondering what excuses you have to outline every individual sentence in its own div and font tags.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding why page rank is important?

maybe......

[geoserv]

as of this date/time January 14th 12:43 AST this page is 4/10 on page ranking, however your coding doesnt validate http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.neverstudy.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline

anyways nice look though, but rough coding.

Geoserv.

[PcMan]

as of this date/time January 14th 12:43 AST this page is 4/10 on page ranking, however your coding doesnt validate http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.neverstudy.com&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline

anyways nice look though, but rough coding.

Geoserv.

thank you, would the coding affect or effect (w.e) the site ranking higher or the bots to crawl the pages?

[geoserv]

validation merely means that if it doesn't pass then some browsers can't properly display your page. I dont think it will have any bearing on your rank.

Validation is not easy...but it is worth the work to make sure it validates because you then ensure that everyone can view it properly and have a better chance of people linking to you.

The more people that link to your website the higher rank you will receive.

But dont sweat over not validating...but look at the errors and try to fix them one at a time. Over time you will validate.

Validation=BONUS

Geoserv.

[PcMan]

validation merely means that if it doesn't pass then some browsers can't properly display your page. I dont think it will have any bearing on your rank.

Validation is not easy...but it is worth the work to make sure it validates because you then ensure that everyone can view it properly and have a better chance of people linking to you.

The more people that link to your website the higher rank you will receive.

But dont sweat over not validating...but look at the errors and try to fix them one at a time. Over time you will validate.

Validation=BONUS

Geoserv.

hey thnx for input man :thumbsup:

[NancyJ]

validation merely means that if it doesn't pass then some browsers can't properly display your page. I dont think it will have any bearing on your rank.

Validation is not easy...but it is worth the work to make sure it validates because you then ensure that everyone can view it properly and have a better chance of people linking to you.

The more people that link to your website the higher rank you will receive.

But dont sweat over not validating...but look at the errors and try to fix them one at a time. Over time you will validate.

Validation=BONUS

Geoserv.

That's rubbish.

Validation IS easy, if you know what you're doing. Having looked at your validation report, you could fix 90% of the errors in 10 minutes. Add alt attributes to all your images, if the image is a spacer or otherwise purely presentational (ie, is used for design and not part of the content or trying to convey anything) use alt = "".
Style should be in the head of your document
Your preload images script should be on your body's onload not the image.
nav1 should be a class not an ID since it is used multiple times on the same page.
There were a few others but I forget what they were, fixing those things will get rid of most of the errors.

Validation will NOT make sure that everyone can view your site properly, it wont increase the chance of people linking to you and it wont make your rank higher.

What validation will do - it will ensure that your code follows the standards set out by the W3C. This means that any browser that renders to those specifications will be able to display your site correctly (by correctly, I mean as it is written, not necesarily how you intended) - please note that IE (used by 90% of users) does NOT follow these standards in any of its current incarnations, accomdations need to be made for ie's lack of standards compliance.
Also remember, just because code is valid, doesnt make it good - all it means is it is within the rules. I could make a perfectly valid site with frames, tables nested 40 deep and spacer gifs, it wouldnt make my site good, or search engine friendly, it wouldnt make people want to link to my site and it wouldnt make me have a good page rank.
Validation is not the be all and end all of web design. All validation really means is that all your code is in the right place and order. Nothing more.

[geoserv]

I take offense to your remark "Thats rubbish".

If your site isn't coded properly, and I can't view the page correctly with my browser, how likely do you think it is that I will return?

The more pages linked to yours does affect your rank, and I didn't mean that validating will increase your rank.

I personally think that validation is a good thing, but like I also said, don't sweat it.

Just because you could make it validate in 10 min. doesn't mean that others could so easily.

We all have opinions and views, so please don't express your disagreement by calling it "Rubbish". Express your view/opinion and let the reader take it into consideration when trying to form their own opinion.

Thank you,
Geoserv.

[PcMan]

you both are right....ok...back to the tru topic!!! :p