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dblader
01-09-2006, 04:11 AM
ok I know how to do javascript, html, css and non server side scripting and i iwanna go futher but i need a server and i heard i can turn my extra home computer into a server please tell me if this is true if it is please tell me how i can do this thank you.

mark87
01-09-2006, 12:46 PM
Yes you can.

Most people would recommend using Apache (http://www.apache.org/), it's free, and most websites will be using it.

You need the Win32 binary MSI installer (supposing you are running Windows) - which doesn't seem to exist for 2.2 so you'll have to get 2.0.55 here (http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi).

Make sure you read the guide on installing on Windows. (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/platform/windows.html)

It's fairly easy to set up but any problems and I'm sure we can help. :)

dblader
01-09-2006, 02:03 PM
You need the Win32 binary MSI installer (supposing you are running Windows) - which doesn't seem to exist for 2.2 so you'll have to get 2.0.55 here.


I don't get this part.

mark87
01-09-2006, 02:04 PM
You need this -

http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/ftp.apache.org/httpd/binaries/win32/apache_2.0.55-win32-x86-no_ssl.msi

dblader
01-09-2006, 02:15 PM
ok I hope that will help when I get back to my house to try (man I hate school) but in the mean time do you know of a site that i can read about this. Update: OK so im reading the how to install to windows and i want to know so i need windows nt or can i use xp pro.

mark87
01-09-2006, 03:05 PM
Just read the documentation, http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/platform/windows.html . Yes you can run it on XP Pro.

Apache will allow you to host your html files yourself but to get things like PHP (if you are wanting to learn that?), you will need to install that seperately.

Since you are new to the whole server side setting up etc, I've had a thought, and would highly recommend using XAMPP.

http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html

XAMPP contains Apache (2.2.0), MySQL (5.0.18), PHP (5.1.1) and phpMyAdmin (2.7.0-pl1).

It's VERY easy to set up - all done for you, and will give you all of the above to play with, without you having to worry about installing each one seperately and then getting them to work together.

Have a read through the documentation at http://www.apachefriends.org/en/faq-xampp-windows.html .

dblader
01-09-2006, 03:12 PM
Hey sweet thanks I will try to figure it out and if I need help I will ask yes i do eventaualy want to learn to do PHP but thats a little advanced. So if I know html, css and javascript what would you recommend going to next i was thinking of trying perl/cgi.

mark87
01-09-2006, 03:20 PM
I know a little PHP, and not really any Perl - but I have a feeling they are both about the same level. I would say start learning PHP - so many tutorials out there (you'll notice the PHP section here has far more posts than the Perl section...) that it's fairly easy to learn the basics.

Just install XAMPP and hopefully you'll be able to experiment with Perl (yes, XAMPP contains that too!) and PHP and see which you prefer, but as I said, I would personally go for PHP.

dblader
01-09-2006, 03:22 PM
Ok well thanks for your help like I said if I need help with the XAMPP I will ask you.

mark87
01-09-2006, 03:23 PM
By the way, you might want to change the thread title to something more suitable such as 'Installing Server Software'; keeps the mods happy. ;)

dblader
01-09-2006, 04:56 PM
Ok I changed the tite to 'Installing Server Software'.:)

dblader
01-10-2006, 10:11 PM
hey so i got it install on my computer but how do i put files to host them and how do i get to them and also can i acsses them from a different computer on the same network.

mark87
01-10-2006, 10:30 PM
Files should be in C:\Program Files\xampp\htdocs.

To access them on the Internet you should use your IP eg. 127.0.0.1 (it won't be that), you can access them from the same computer by using http://localhost (or http://127.0.0.1).

dblader
01-10-2006, 10:47 PM
how do i find my ip is it 192.168.0.8 or is that a local thing in my network

mark87
01-10-2006, 10:55 PM
That's your network's computer address.

Go to http://www.whatismyip.com/

dblader
01-10-2006, 11:08 PM
so how or can i acsess it from a friends computer.

mark87
01-10-2006, 11:19 PM
...type in your IP. In the address bar.

dblader
01-10-2006, 11:28 PM
ok so im at my friends house and i put my ip in like you said but iget cannot find server. what do i do.

mark87
01-11-2006, 12:01 AM
The actual IP of your computer at home?

Is XAMPP running?

Does localhost work from computer running XAMPP?

oracleguy
01-11-2006, 02:17 AM
If you have a router you need to go into the configuration and have it forward port 80 to the computer on your network that has the server software on it so when you access it from your friend's computer over the internet it gets there.

dblader
01-11-2006, 04:18 AM
ok so i got the server working how do i get the ftp to work.

oracleguy
01-11-2006, 10:06 PM
Assuming you had the server software configured correctly, you'll need to forward a port for that, the default is 21.

dblader
01-12-2006, 03:56 AM
ok how do i know that i have my server setup correctly. i can get to my site from anywhere. but no ftp and i don't even know how to get to my ftp.

oracleguy
01-13-2006, 08:13 AM
If it were connecting to it, you'd use ftp:// instead of http:// or connect to it using an FTP client.

dblader
01-13-2006, 08:26 PM
i can use ftp to get to it from the computer in my room by using ftp://127.0.0.1 but i can't get to it using my ip.

dblader
01-14-2006, 04:39 AM
nvm i got it figured out i had to use the passvie mode settings and put it on dynamic ip.

GO ILLINI
01-15-2006, 08:22 PM
chances are you have a dynamic ip(unless I missed something) so your best bet would be to go to http://dyndns.org and install that to get a hostname. Then you wont have to use your IP.


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