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little_toaster
11-08-2005, 11:52 PM
I may use this new curvy version what do u think?

which is best straight (http://www.littletoaster.com) or curved (http://www.littletoaster.com/toast/testcurves.html)

I think i like the curvy version, it looks neater / modern?, whatta u thinky?

harbingerOTV
11-09-2005, 12:11 AM
I think the curvy one has a little more something to it.

You really need to fix that code though. I can assume you use 1024x768? the right links break out of the red box at higer res and it doesn't scale down to 800x600 at all. It gets real ugly.

and see what it looks like if you justify the text in the right column.

KeZZeR
11-09-2005, 12:21 AM
Curvy curvy curvy :thumbsup:

harlequin2k5
11-09-2005, 02:22 AM
I like the rounded also - the banner is pretty neat too

where'd the stars go? or are we making those curvy too? ;)

Green Beast
11-09-2005, 02:38 AM
I like them both (though I don't like pick background on the straight's divs). I may have to buck the trend and say straight, but it's a really tough call. Somehow the curvy one seems familiar to me, the staright more original.

Maybe it's time for a style changer? :)

Mike

friscofrankie
11-09-2005, 02:50 AM
I like the radiused corners and the banner of the curvy one. But I don;t like Black on Blue print. Hard on the ol' eyes.

little_toaster
11-09-2005, 08:22 AM
I agree that it is time for a style changer; I did see one on a ala article that looked quite simple to implement.

The rollover pink divs are history!

The common response seems favourable to the curvy, but i need to change the heading text color. My code is a mess, i have not tested at all it was just a late night mock-up, i have just tried on 8 x 6, it broke!

Actually im a little stuck on making graphics(main banner) work with %'s and elastic sites, anyone have any good links?

Thanks for great comments, anthony

Green Beast
11-09-2005, 12:46 PM
I agree that it is time for a style changer; I did see one on a ala article that looked quite simple to implement.

The rollover pink divs are history!

The common response seems favourable to the curvy, but i need to change the heading text color. My code is a mess, i have not tested at all it was just a late night mock-up, i have just tried on 8 x 6, it broke!

Actually im a little stuck on making graphics(main banner) work with %'s and elastic sites, anyone have any good links?

Thanks for great comments, anthony

Look at this this site I made (http://gbhxonline.com/). Note the max and min widths (not in IE). It's set so in IE it should max out with no scroll bar, and the minimum stops at the actual banner width. The hard part of this site was working the graphics and figuring it all out. You can go from 504 px I think to 1024, then it enlarges vertically only. If you have a scroll wheel, activate it while holding Crtl (Win)... it's great fun.

This site also uses a style changer (PHP/Cookie) to select serif or sans serif.

Mike

little_toaster
11-09-2005, 03:53 PM
I am afraid im not entirely sure what you mean by the max and min width?, also I dont know what you have done to make it resizable like it is?, I can do resizable without images, but with images is very tricky!

I can break my image up so that it is 2 images, the left and right curved edges;

The left curved image with the logo, name etc.. could be positioned left in the div. and the right curved image positioned right in the div.

Is this what you mean?, then i could just have the div background color fill in the middle part, which would make the banner elastic. To an extent!

Thanks for your time, Anthony

Green Beast
11-09-2005, 04:11 PM
Make the images wide, but have them overlap. Min-width and max-width control how far it goes horizontally (so you don't get a horz. scroll bar). The images themselves are either big enough to allow for max resizing (like the link backgrounds) or they allow overlap (like the banner/s). See Page Info, Media to see the individual images, then it should start making more sense on how it was done. Mostly I do fixed width sites, but I am keen on this one (my first) attempt at elastic.

Everything is measured using ems or %, but the images are still measured in pixels. If you want the images to resize as well, measure them in ems, but be prepared for viewing differences if people have non-default text sizing.

Study the images and the CSS and it should start making sense.
I hope this helps.

Mike

rlemon
11-09-2005, 09:40 PM
well, first thing.

site is off in FF (for some reason all your css is mucked up for me)

looking at them in ie however works fine.

and with that said.

CURVEY!

little_toaster
11-11-2005, 01:04 AM
well i have indulged all your good words;

and i have come to the conclusion that the curves are good and taken onboard a very basic looking design that i think works that incorporates features from the curvy and staright, what do u think?

http://www.littletoaster.com/default.asp

@green b
I do now understand what you have done with the graphics, yeh!, thanks for that info!, I am going to implement a switcher eventually!

thanks for comments! p.s please ignore content / load time / validation:)

Green Beast
11-11-2005, 01:23 AM
well i have indulged all your good words;

and i have come to the conclusion that the curves are good and taken onboard a very basic looking design that i think works that incorporates features from the curvy and staright, what do u think?

http://www.littletoaster.com/default.asp

@green b
I do now understand what you have done with the graphics, yeh!, thanks for that info!, I am going to implement a switcher eventually!

thanks for comments! p.s please ignore content / load time / validation:)

Lookin' good, Anthony :)

little_toaster
11-14-2005, 12:50 PM
added a new style sheet called clear white;

in mozilla just select view / page style / clear white.

http://www.littletoaster.com

next project is to make a style switcher, what do u think to the clear white?

Green Beast
11-14-2005, 01:34 PM
added a new style sheet called clear white;

in mozilla just select view / page style / clear white.

http://www.littletoaster.com

next project is to make a style switcher, what do u think to the clear white?

It's too clear for me. My default Firefox background is gray (no theme), so it's more like a clear gray. If it had a white background I would think it looks really great. Anthony, send me a PM and I'll reply with a quick-n-easy PHP style switcher for you, the one I use. Changing styles via the selector is a drag since you have to do it on every page. My switcher uses a cookie.

Mike

little_toaster
11-14-2005, 06:53 PM
it works great thankyou!

lol, my girlfriened has the degree in english!

I'm going to try and develop an ASP version.

Green Beast
11-14-2005, 07:00 PM
it works great thankyou!

lol, my girlfriened has the degree in english!

I'm going to try and develop an ASP version.
You're welcome, Anthony... no link so we can try it out?

Mike

hemebond
11-14-2005, 09:50 PM
<br /><br /><BR><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Good grief. Yet more proof that serving XHTML as text/html is bad and how the specifications can't always prevent bad code.

Green Beast
11-14-2005, 10:56 PM
<br /><br /><BR><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Good grief. Yet more proof that serving XHTML as text/html is bad and how the specifications can't always prevent bad code.
Yeah, Toast, what's with all the breaks?

Mike

little_toaster
11-17-2005, 10:22 PM
I have really been a little lazy with the validation / semantics!

I apoligize to all, and do fully support clean coding techniques with a passion!

Thanks for the heads up!, It will be sorted out right now!

Green Beast
11-17-2005, 10:53 PM
Lol, you were supposed to respond with...

"Dem isda breaks!"

little_toaster
11-17-2005, 10:55 PM
""Dem isda breaks!"

i have changed the menu a little, and also the text placement, making sure im using em's and percentages and also validated coding!, whew!

sorry no link yet for style switcher!, i need my form in asp for now!, so I cant use it just yet!, I think a great idea would be a javascript style switcher, one for the php and asp!

In the mean time a have made a christmas theme (non ie), what do u think?

go to: view / page style / snowywhite

little_toaster
11-22-2005, 09:02 PM
what do u think?, just simple bits here and there, but i beleive it has made a difference, i also took advice and trashed the gradient!

http://www.littletoaster.com

I have also created a white version of the site for moz users check out the alt style sheet (ok, ok, i added snow so what its nearing xmas!);

view / pagestyle / toastsnowy

Green Beast
11-22-2005, 09:43 PM
Lookin' sharp :)

hemebond
11-23-2005, 12:05 AM
<a href="siterequest.asp">&nbsp;&nbsp;site request</a>You sure like those spaces.

<h2 class="heading1">Are they really necessary?

<h2 class="heading1"><a name="standards">Shouldn't that be
<h2 id="standards">

target="_blank">If someone wants a new window, they'll open a new window.

Oh, and I'm getting text/html instead of application/xhtml.

little_toaster
11-23-2005, 12:12 AM
thanks for critique;

I need the headers to be name anchors, can u use the headings id as an anchor?, if so i have never seen this? Code does validate xhtml!
The new window annnoyance will be sorted out when i get my portfolio up and running.

thanks for comments, anthony

hemebond
11-23-2005, 12:30 AM
We adhere to web standards set by the world wide web consortium (w3c), whom produce reccomendations for the markup languages used for all the sites littletoaster.com produces.But have you read them?
By coding websites to these intolerable standardsIntolerable? I've found them to be quite good.

Green Beast
11-23-2005, 12:30 AM
It's understandable you're serving the document as text/html... since support for application/xhtml+xml is still limited.

Mike

little_toaster
11-23-2005, 12:48 AM
i have re-worded, and the site needs alot more spellchecking / re-wording!:)

I believed my doc type / cont type is correct?

thanyou, anthony

hemebond
11-23-2005, 06:01 AM
I believed my doc type / cont type is correct?If it's text/html you're wanting to send, your code is not valid.



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