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View Full Version : Site Layout .. what do you think is best?



Rocket Boy
11-01-2005, 11:30 PM
It's an easy questions..... Frames vs Included Content.

For example, is it better to have a html header in a frame at the top of the broswer window as it's own entity or to have the same html header included in the top of all your other pages, eg index, home etc thereby eliminating the need for a frames page?

_Aerospace_Eng_
11-02-2005, 12:15 AM
Frames=bad. If you are worried about search engines then I wouldn't use frames.

Silent_Menace
11-02-2005, 01:01 AM
Tough call, personally i wouldn't go with frames.

ronaldb66
11-02-2005, 08:06 AM
Frames and framesets have a number of well-documented drawbacks and offer very few advantages that can't be realised using other techniques.

If you want to include certain page elements from a single source on a number of pages with little or no variation there are perfectly suitable server side solutions you can apply; no need for frames.

Rocket Boy
11-02-2005, 03:20 PM
Frames and framesets have a number of well-documented drawbacks and offer very few advantages that can't be realised using other techniques.

If you want to include certain page elements from a single source on a number of pages with little or no variation there are perfectly suitable server side solutions you can apply; no need for frames.

This is exactly the way I was thinking. The thing is that once I have included my header, menu, page footer and a couple of other elements on to say.. my index page. It really effects the loading time and the page transition (smoothness).

In it's own way it looks very unprofessional.

ronaldb66
11-02-2005, 03:32 PM
Internet users nowadays are pretty much used to pages refreshing entirely from the ground up; if your pages take too long to load or load irregularly, you might want to look into how they are constructed, how large the image files are, if you are making efficient use of caching, etc.
Infamous are complex, multiply nested all-table layouts: rendering often is deferred until the entire page has loaded, or it needs to be reflowed several times over causing a shifty, yerky experience.

If you'd like some pointers, please supply a link so we can take a look at it.

Rocket Boy
11-02-2005, 03:54 PM
The site isn't online yet but I will definitely be looking for opinions and criticisms when it is, thanks!

You may have hit the nail on the head though... My main pages contain tables and my included pages contain tables and some graphics.

I can see how this could be causing the problem.



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