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]|V|[agnus
07-20-2005, 05:26 AM
I did some searches, but they all referred to the well-known IE guillotine bug.

Please refer to the current layout of my site, specifically the contact page, as it provides a good example: http://sethrasmussen.com/contact/

Move your mouse back and forth between the main navigation and the form, paying attention to your main window scrollbar... hovering over the main nav links seems to lop of the bottom-margin or -padding of... #content? Hard to tell. My theory is that it has something to do with borders and (hazarding a predictable but speculative guess) floats.

A similar bug happens in IE on the same page, but it occurs when moving between the form fields/labels and the submit/reset buttons.

Opera seems a-ok. Haven't checked Safari yet.

So, any ideas? Is there anything on this out there already? Am I overlooking something obvious?

_Aerospace_Eng_
07-20-2005, 06:35 AM
Thats a rather strange issue. I noticed that you seem to be importing quite a bit of CSS. I suggest you make a test page, taking items out one by one until the problem is resolved. It does have something to do with the form. What exactly I'm not sure.

]|V|[agnus
07-20-2005, 06:42 AM
A good deconstruction would probably do the whole dang thing a lot of good. The triggering of the effect is not limited to the form, though. Other items trigger it to a different degree.

But... that is just the sort of 'reverse' effect there. The initial problem is with the main nav. That *always* lops something off the end as far as I can tell. Sometimes you don't notice it because there are no scrollbars either way, or because it lopped something off but there's nothing on the page to trigger it back.

]|V|[agnus
07-20-2005, 06:44 AM
An example of a non-form element triggering the 'reverse' effect: http://sethrasmussen.com/stuff/index.cfm?s=illustration

The list of illustration thumbnails is the culprit this time. I'm fairly certain I saw one of the ^ back ^ links doing it at one point, but I can't recall where off hand.

_Aerospace_Eng_
07-20-2005, 06:50 AM
Hmm that page seems fine in FF. I'm guessing on focus or something its adding some type of margin or padding.

]|V|[agnus
07-20-2005, 07:01 AM
What version of FF? I'm looking at that page in 1.04 and the effect is much less significant than on the contact page, but it is there.

I am thinking floats are definitely involved so far:

* The main nav, the originator, is a list of floated items
* The illustration list is the same, causing the reverse effect
* In the stuff/web section, clicking on the floated preview link reverses the effect

However:

* The same reversal when clicking a link also applies to the h1 link which is within positioned items, not floated ones
* The contact form, where we're seeing the most drastic effect, has no positioning or floating going on

[...]

Aero, what exactly did you mean about focus?

zro@rtv
07-20-2005, 07:05 AM
im using 1.0.5 and i dont see it on the illustration page.... unless its microscopic.

]|V|[agnus
07-20-2005, 07:12 AM
I just checked in 1.0.6, and it's still there. It changes the scrollbar size by about 5 pixels.

I should clarify that the floated links in the body reversing the effect depend on their location in the document, in a way that's not quite clear to me.

:confused:

Zheesh...

]|V|[agnus
07-20-2005, 07:17 AM
Heh...

Go to the home page. Now, depending on how you clicked the link to get there, you may or may not have triggered the effect when the page loads. I'll explain.

Now that you're at the home page, go to click the home link twice more. Once making sure that your mouse is over the text "Opposite of Sequitur" when you release the click, then another time with your mouse over any of the empty space within the element's box.

The latter situation results in the bug at page load, the former does not.

:eek:

* head explodes *

_Aerospace_Eng_
07-20-2005, 07:22 AM
|V|[agnus']I just checked in 1.0.6, and it's still there. It changes the scrollbar size by about 5 pixels.

I should clarify that the floated links in the body reversing the effect depend on their location in the document, in a way that's not quite clear to me.

:confused:

Zheesh...
Okay I see it. I honestly never experienced your problem before. One more thing when did FF 1.0.6 come out :eek: They released 1.0.5 like a week ago.

]|V|[agnus
07-20-2005, 07:41 AM
Haha, no doubt. I actually went looking for 1.0.5 just a moment ago, feeling like I was way behind the times on that update. My client, at home and at work, failed to prompt me for download... :confused: :confused: :confused:

_Aerospace_Eng_
07-20-2005, 07:49 AM
Yeah neither did mine. What I meant about the onfocus thing is it seems to happen when you hover over something. And you change an image or something. It might be something with your rollovers.



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