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Auriga
04-23-2005, 03:22 AM
Kinda geeky i guess so hope this stays...

Any-hoo with the UK General Election a mere two weeks away i am curious to know how you UK folk will be voting (if at all but i hope you make your vote count!)

Has any of the parties made you change from the way you voted four years ago?

Will Blair make it a third time in office?

If you're not eligible or old enough to vote just let's say you are. :)

Discuss. :D

bfsog
04-23-2005, 08:40 AM
I think it is a full gone conclusion that Labour will get another term in office.
Instead of concentrating on the Election, all 3 major parties just mock what the others propose.

The Tories are losing it, but they still edge above the lib dems.

I think Tony Blair is a good prime minister anyway.

whackaxe
04-23-2005, 12:02 PM
since when does this have anything to do with Geek news or humour? i think we did a reasonly good job staying off politics in the 9/11 anniversary threads so an election shouldn't be a reason either

JamieR
04-25-2005, 11:46 AM
Well I can't vote as I'm 15 :(

However, I gotta feeling my folks are going to be voting either liberal democrats or conversative..not sure yet though :p

Auriga
04-25-2005, 03:12 PM
I just don't like the idea of another four years of Labour rule :(

...{chris}...
04-25-2005, 05:51 PM
Dont vote and just fall into an Anarchy state.

-Chris

Auriga
04-25-2005, 05:55 PM
Don't think that'll happen, and sure as hell wouldn't want it to!

*sigh* here come the tax increases...anyone else have around 65% tax on petrol (gas)?

gsnedders
04-25-2005, 06:53 PM
Not voting... Look in the column with my joined date, location, etc. for why :D

bcarl314
04-25-2005, 07:45 PM
since when does this have anything to do with Geek news or humour?

Oh come on. We all saw the US elections last year and what a joke those turned out to be! :eek:

chilipie
04-25-2005, 10:27 PM
Hmm... I'd probably vote Lib Dem. Howard's a racist twat and Blair kisses Bush's arse. Hard choice, eh. :cool:

Auriga
04-25-2005, 10:42 PM
I presume you're referring to Michael Howards proposed limits on immigration?

Racist? How?

It'd get my vote without question!

JamieR
04-25-2005, 11:09 PM
I personally welcome Mr. Howard's policy on immigration. I am not being racist by posting this - Michael Howard is jewish himself, and you all know the hardship that they have faced with the Nazis etc. However, sensible controlled numbers of people entering the UK is far better than having thousands of people in the UK that no one even knows about.

whackaxe
04-25-2005, 11:18 PM
Oh come on. We all saw the US elections last year and what a joke those turned out to be! :eek:

fair enough, but it was quite a bad joke because most of the world wasn't laughing afterwords :p

personnaly i would vote for a green/socialist/communist aprty, unfortunatly there don't seem to be any big ones this year round (nothing new there then)

ChronicleX.com
04-27-2005, 03:59 PM
am 18 and say go Blair!!!!! :thumbsup: his not scared to defend his country even if it was a mistake and he also knows what it means to be an ally not like the French

whackaxe
04-27-2005, 05:35 PM
he also knows what it means to be an ally not like the French

you remember the story mothers tell their kids when they get into trouble: "if your friend jumps off a cllif are you going to do the same"?

what was he defending his country against? Weapons of mass destruction? whoops, didn't find any of those. Al Qaeda? Saddam's regime didn't really appreciate Bin Laden's organsiation too much and seeing as the Bush administration were already planning Iraqs invasion before 9/11 there seems to be a little time problem there, not to mention reinforcing britains securty would have been a better investment against Al Qaeda IMO.

Being an 'ally' isn't blindly following a country(monkey) to invade another (which we shouldn't forget has cost the lives of up to 10,000 civilians and 1,300 coalition soldiers). If Britain are such a great ally, why don't they act as a real member of the EU and accept the Euro for example? or the Shengen convention? you can't deny Britain is part of the EU, they joined to save their economy after all. now tell me what multinational organisation decided upon the invasion or iraq?

i leave you on this rather appropriate quote: "I fart in your general direction". Being a true Brit i expect you to be able to put it in its context :)

Auriga
04-27-2005, 05:45 PM
Accept the Euro? *laughs uncontrolably!*

Why let's just had all power we have left to Brussels and be done with it! - No freakin' way!

I firmly believe that if there was a referrendum on the euro (which there should be) then most would vote to keep the Pound.

Talkfreelance
04-27-2005, 06:37 PM
Conservatives, why? Because voting for Lib Dem is throwing my vote away, voting for Labour is like voting for the boy who cried wolf and the other parties have little to no morals or ethics.

Auriga
04-27-2005, 06:39 PM
Agreed.

And the only way to get Labour out is to vote Conservative.

Lib Dems do put forward some good ideas but they will have nowhere near enough votes to get the keys to number 10.

whackaxe
04-27-2005, 07:20 PM
Accept the Euro? *laughs uncontrolably!*

Why let's just had all power we have left to Brussels and be done with it! - No freakin' way!

I firmly believe that if there was a referrendum on the euro (which there should be) then most would vote to keep the Pound.

i'm not talking about power, I'm talking about commitment. Since England joined the EU it has always had one foot on the continent and the other firmly riveted to the british isles, only participating in activities that directly benfit England. I'm shure that the government wouldn't mind adopting the Constitution (http://www.house.gov/Constitution/Constitution.html) though ;)

Graft-Creative
04-28-2005, 12:11 AM
I was lucky enough to b leaving school when there was 3 million plus unemployed under the last conservative government - how good life felt way back then :rolleyes:

I'll be voting *progressive* I'll leave you to figure what that means.

I vote on the ideals of a party, not paticular policies. The ideals shape the policies after all.

Conservative: cut taxes blah blah, send the buggers back blah blah blah. Lowest common denominator, as always.

Yours,

The Ragged Trouser'd Philanthropist

JamieR
04-28-2005, 12:45 AM
The Ragged Trouser'd Philanthropist

Dude..I haven't got that book yet, I keep meaning to though :D

ChronicleX.com
04-28-2005, 09:48 AM
you remember the story mothers tell their kids when they get into trouble: "if your friend jumps off a cllif are you going to do the same"?

what was he defending his country against? Weapons of mass destruction? whoops, didn't find any of those. Al Qaeda? Saddam's regime didn't really appreciate Bin Laden's organsiation too much and seeing as the Bush administration were already planning Iraqs invasion before 9/11 there seems to be a little time problem there, not to mention reinforcing britains securty would have been a better investment against Al Qaeda IMO.

Being an 'ally' isn't blindly following a country(monkey) to invade another (which we shouldn't forget has cost the lives of up to 10,000 civilians and 1,300 coalition soldiers). If Britain are such a great ally, why don't they act as a real member of the EU and accept the Euro for example? or the Shengen convention? you can't deny Britain is part of the EU, they joined to save their economy after all. now tell me what multinational organisation decided upon the invasion or iraq?

i leave you on this rather appropriate quote: "I fart in your general direction". Being a true Brit i expect you to be able to put it in its context :)


i like how you use blind? in what way?
if being an ally is not helping the person you are an ally with then what is an ally to you guys sitting on your A$$ eating frogs.

You guys can talk your way out of anything how do you do it?

Ok am going to stop there before i get banned or something lol end of convo for me give my self a slap on the wrist.

then again USA did not back us up in the world war till they got a rocket up there back end was that world war 1 or 2 ahhhh never liked my history. Am prob wrong about that not likeing history and all but i like to be wrong means i have something to learn :p am not one of them ppl who always thinks there right like someone or some ppl.

I LOVE A GOOD DEBATE

bcarl314
04-28-2005, 05:12 PM
This sounds like an interesting election. Must be nice to have more than 2 parties. :(

Mr Deck
04-30-2005, 12:52 AM
Before we vote I think we need to look back a few years when Thatcher's was around and what happened then? I come from the north of England we where hit hard and fast, the south got it at the tail end. This country is now stable after years of hard work cleaning up the mess left over by Thatcher.

I do not agree with Blair in something but I can see his point on the most important issues that's us and jobs and homes.

I have 2 damaged discs in my back and need an operation the NHS have been 100% they have done all they can to help me.

My son 9 in a good school where teachers take time out for him and the other kids.

Look at reality what we have look at what we may lose if Blair does not get back in.

On a lighter note: Three legged dog walk into a bar in the USA look at the Barman and said "Hey who shot my Paw"

This site I thought funny (http://www.michaeljacksoninjail.co.uk)

Take care all

JamieR
04-30-2005, 01:01 AM
True, although a lot of people don't like Tony Blair because of the war in Iraq, he is a strong leader in other areas. One thing I don't like however is the way that the news people scrutinize political leaders body language etc..that really annoys me :mad:

My folks have now decided....they are voting Lib dem. Michael Howard, to me, is now becoming too comical - I supported him at the beginning of the campaign trail, but now I've seen what he is really like..to me, the Lib Dems deserver the right to show us what they believe should be done to the UK, and build on what Labour Government has done for us. I do support Howards ideas on immigration, but I do not however support his ideas on the NHS etc - god job I'm too young to vote :|

Graft-Creative
04-30-2005, 01:43 AM
Mr Deck - well said! I'm on the other side of the Pennines, but it was just as bad over here under Thatcher.

What makes me laugh is the countryside alliance and farmers for action etc, I bet these were the same people that were backing the conservatives against the miners and steelworkers and poll-tax protesters - now they are out protesting and having mini-riots because their cosy little ways are being challenged, the irony of it :rolleyes:

The Iraq war - hey Blair didn't go there and say they had WMDs, that was the UN, the legalities of a second resolution are moot, but the UN believed Hussein had them and that if he didn't comply - force was an option. Howerd was for it, and make no mistake the Liberal Democrats were for it (with the caveat of yet another resolution) but still for it in theory.

A vote for conservative is a vote against investment in public services, the NHS etc, a vote against human rights (the EU human rights convention) a vote against the minimum wage, a vote against working families tax credits, a vote against child tax credits, a vote against the new deal - and basically a vote FOR the dog eat dog Britain of the 80's and early 90's.

The best the Tories can come up with is some crap anti Blair posters and some dodgy policies about immigration and using NHS money to subsidise those who can pay for private medical care.

The Tories should be buried in history, along with that fascist The Duke of Wellington.

Er, got a bit carried away there :D

Gary

brothercake
04-30-2005, 02:00 AM
What makes me laugh is the countryside alliance and farmers for action etc, I bet these were the same people that were backing the conservatives against the miners and steelworkers and poll-tax protesters - now they are out protesting and having mini-riots because their cosy little ways are being challenged, the irony of it :rolleyes:
Good to see the irony's not lost on everyone :thumbsup:

And we tried to tell them you know, during the criminal justice act - we (by which I mean, hippies, ravers, festival-goers and other miscreants) tried to warn middle-england that the loss of rights to free assembly and protest would come back and bite them ... but they didn't listen; and now lo and behold ...

The pro-hunt lobby are living 30 years in the past if they think they can just defy the law ... they'll find out soon enough how the police deal with civil disobedience these days ...

whackaxe
05-04-2005, 04:54 PM
you guys sitting on your A$$ eating frogs.
I LVOE A GOOD DEBATE

i find these two sentences to be incompatible :rolleyes:

ChronicleX.com
05-04-2005, 06:02 PM
don't put them together then in your post/edited quote :p

JamieR
05-06-2005, 07:28 PM
Okay....so Tony Blair got back in :eek:

brothercake
05-08-2005, 04:33 PM
Well what were you expecting? Like, what's the alternative? Vote for the ****ing tories? It'll be a cold day in hell before I give Michael Howard any more power ... does he think we've all forgotten?

whackaxe
05-08-2005, 05:33 PM
actually, it'll probably be a cold day in prison, LOTS OF PRISONS! MUAHAHAHA!