need a php coder to develop a script

i was seeking seroiusly for a system that script.com or hotscrip.com are using
i want a powerfull rating system for gpt program i will pay for this project
50/50 i mean profit will be devided to m me and developer + 1/2 cost that this oding has this a seroius project that will be very profitable system

I have some experiance of PhP. Your not very specific at what you wanted done please either post back here or PM me or contact me at:
contact@calibreclan.co.uk and we'll hopefully talk some more

I'm not sure I'd be willing to work for someone that can't spell and leaves no contact details... :cool:

It's always the same old story. You have a brilliant idea, but you are too lazy to generate the capital required to invest in a programmer to make your idea into a reality.

It's not such a brilliant idea, it more than likely will not generate large cash flows (generally because this area has already been settled by sites like hotscripts).

Not saying there aren't any ideas that stand to generate large cash flows, in fact I am working on one right now. But you can't just go around and say I'll give you half the profits if you do all the work. You've already given away the idea, so why can't the programmer just take your idea and make their own? You wouldn't even know about it because you just put out this genius idea in plain view of everyone.

It's always the same old story. You have a brilliant idea, but you are too lazy to generate the capital required to invest in a programmer to make your idea into a reality.

It's not such a brilliant idea, it more than likely will not generate large cash flows (generally because this area has already been settled by sites like hotscripts).

Not saying there aren't any ideas that stand to generate large cash flows, in fact I am working on one right now. But you can't just go around and say I'll give you half the profits if you do all the work. You've already given away the idea, so why can't the programmer just take your idea and make their own? You wouldn't even know about it because you just put out this genius idea in plain view of everyone.
ok ok you are wrong and i never have place my geniune idea in front of all eyes :) but the whoule thing i wana to say is that i need your coding as an investment do you get it? so the rest is with me you develop my idea with your coding and i invest my capital to force the site give proft that is all
i need a faithhfull team about 2-3 that will dedicate to this awsome project
so every one is agree leave a message so we can complete our team ok?

firegirl, your two posts confuse me. Can you please make a definitive statement how the programmer helping on your project gets compensated? Is it

a) He gets paid regularly for the time he invests or
b) He will only see money once the site generates profit, and then 50% of it.

firegirl, your two posts confuse me. Can you please make a definitive statement how the programmer helping on your project gets compensated? Is it

a) He gets paid regularly for the time he invests or
b) He will only see money once the site generates profit, and then 50% of it.
let me clear all thing this a really seroius project that need a team to do that
so:
1-we make a team (now one person pmed me intrested in this project) say about 3-4 person
2-program work on my ideas to bring it to reality :rolleyes:
3- they will get the licince of the progect+50% of the profit of the site for life time
4-i am responsible for getting this biulding to work for us all
5-i will assure you that reall venture begins from brillant ideas :thumbsup:

Firegirl is making some sense, I am the one who PMed her anyone who would like to help us PM firegirl about it, it will explained more once you do.
Thats what I found out ;)

How do 3-4 people each get 50% of the profit?? :confused:

Someone's going to get an awfully small share...

How do 3-4 people each get 50% of the profit?? :confused:

Someone's going to get an awfully small share...
oh my god i wana to biuld a real progect that can genereate profit for all life time
not a single month or 2 or ......

Well, I'm still interested to hear how four people can each get 50% of the profits. Must be some project! :eek:

Well, I'm still interested to hear how four people can each get 50% of the profits. Must be some project! :eek:
oh my god i told that the 50 % will be given to them 50/4=12/--
ok? that is all i am still eaiting for other offer i have a real opporunity but don have skill of php do do it we can help eachother to grow :cool:

I resisted posting in this thread but it's now going from silly to ridiculous.

Like was said before it seems a case of i do all the work and take 50% while the hard workers who are actually running the site and put in their time and effort get more or less nothing.

Why not offer 20% all round?

I resisted posting in this thread but it's now going from silly to ridiculous.

Like was said before it seems a case of i do all the work and take 50% while the hard workers who are actually running the site and put in their time and effort get more or less nothing.

Why not offer 20% all round?
ok ok i will prepay but need a test to do a sipmle coding then i can offer you 50-100$ to customize a script

The thing is firegirl, what is to stop you from just taking all profits from the project? Nobody knows you, and while your intentions may be good the anonimity of the internet stops us from really being able to trust you.

This sort of project is a real risk to take for the programmer(s). In the many hours they spend working on this project they could quite possibly have completed numerous individual projects and been paid every step of the way. Then once they've finished, say you hold your word, but the site makes such small profits over the course of a year. Less than what the programmer(s) would have made by doing individual paying projects? ALL of my money comes from freelancing as a programmer, granted I still live at home and I'm only 18, but I have bills none the less and I need every cent to continue any sort of a social life so the risk is just way too high.

I'm not sure if you realise how many project ideas exactly like this come through not only these forums but nearly every other programming related forums on the net. And usually it's a 12 year old American or Brit. Why does every child who has the internet over there and has *mastered* html suddenly get the idea of becoming rich without doing any actual work themselves? They act like they are the ideas man, you know it's hard work thinking about how to spend the money once the programmer who faces countless logic problems and design problems not to mention actually programming everything completes the project for them. But that's really not that hard in comparison.

So tell me, what sets this project apart from these other ideas? (And that's all they really are, not many ever become a reality)

Do you have a design document? I'd like to see it, I prefer .pdf format. :rolleyes:

Very well said, Mhtml. I noticed also this repeating pattern of "I have the idea, you work for me free, we share profits" offers. And just to expand on the points you mentioned:

1. firegirl, this is not how business works. Usually, a founder invests his time, energy and money in creating and improving his company. He may actually get funded from VCs or banks, but it's his duty to acquire the necessary financial support to keep his company running. He takes the profit at the end, but he takes also all the risks.

In your model, you don't take any risks at all, but instead you (as Mhtml pointed out) put the risks completely on the shoulders of your programmers. This is both unfair and unwise, and waving around with the "we share profits" slogan is simply misleading. You will never see a thriving example of your business model in real life.

2. What guarantees the programmers that you do not lose interest after some weeks and abandon the project? Since no risk is involved for you, there's nothing to stop you from doing exactly that. The invested time and effort of the programmers would wasted.

3. "Pay peanuts, get monkeys". Should be self-explainable.

4. Without a capable stuff, you won't make the product you imagine. Granted, some products are "just good enough" and generate revenue, but you won't come even that far.

5. Every member of your team will immediately change boats and take up a paid project, if he gets an offer. So you have no guarantee of commitment at all.

5. Legal issues. Who oversees distribution of profits? Who decides which direction the project takes? How is the business organized, what is the company structure? Is there a company at all?

6. You need to build up trust that you really have that brilliant idea and that you are capable of managing a project. But yet we don't know that much of your background at all. Judging from your orthography and the lack of basic knowledge displayed in the PHP forum, building trust will be difficult for you.

7. If your idea would be that brilliant, you would have investors. Or the will to spend your own money on this project.

In summary: Think again about your proposal and realize that it's a road to nowhere.

Very well said, Mhtml. I noticed also this repeating pattern of "I have the idea, you work for me free, we share profits" offers. And just to expand on the points you mentioned:

1. firegirl, this is not how business works. Usually, a founder invests his time, energy and money in creating and improving his company. He may actually get funded from VCs or banks, but it's his duty to acquire the necessary financial support to keep his company running. He takes the profit at the end, but he takes also all the risks.

In your model, you don't take any risks at all, but instead you (as Mhtml pointed out) put the risks completely on the shoulders of your programmers. This is both unfair and unwise, and waving around with the "we share profits" slogan is simply misleading. You will never see a thriving example of your business model in real life.

2. What guarantees the programmers that you do not lose interest after some weeks and abandon the project? Since no risk is involved for you, there's nothing to stop you from doing exactly that. The invested time and effort of the programmers would wasted.

3. "Pay peanuts, get monkeys". Should be self-explainable.

4. Without a capable stuff, you won't make the product you imagine. Granted, some products are "just good enough" and generate revenue, but you won't come even that far.

5. Every member of your team will immediately change boats and take up a paid project, if he gets an offer. So you have no guarantee of commitment at all.

5. Legal issues. Who oversees distribution of profits? Who decides which direction the project takes? How is the business organized, what is the company structure? Is there a company at all?

6. You need to build up trust that you really have that brilliant idea and that you are capable of managing a project. But yet we don't know that much of your background at all. Judging from your orthography and the lack of basic knowledge displayed in the PHP forum, building trust will be difficult for you.

7. If your idea would be that brilliant, you would have investors. Or the will to spend your own money on this project.

In summary: Think again about your proposal and realize that it's a road to nowhere.
thanks alot for your kind clarifying
so what should i do? i have a idea in my mind and whant it go to reality
please specifically advise me a plan how can i stablish a truthworthy team to work on this project? i am seaking all around the web but there are powerfull company that take huge compensation to do a project and no gauranty for what ypu exactly whant
so my strategy will be you offer and i decide ok? you clarify your conditions and i decide about it that is the best way
and another important thing i am in hurry every day passing will be bad for me thanks all h am hear you

Well as mordred was saying, your business model is just not workable.
You can't put such risk on the programmers as has been said, it's not fair to the programmer otherwise.

A good place to start would be to raise some capital, this way the programmers don't have such a high risk, and will most likely stick around..Like mordred said, they'll leave at the first chance if they're offered paid work otherwise..I would.
Secondly, have some respect for the english language! Your spelling is terrible! You don't want to look like a 12 year old (unless you are).

Also, you will need to provide more information about your project. You've specified PHP. What elements do you need in this system? You said a powerful ranking system, you could elaborate some more on this for instance.

Well as mordred was saying, your business model is just not workable.
You can't put such risk on the programmers as has been said, it's not fair to the programmer otherwise.

A good place to start would be to raise some capital, this way the programmers don't have such a high risk, and will most likely stick around..Like mordred said, they'll leave at the first chance if they're offered paid work otherwise..I would.
Secondly, have some respect for the english language! Your spelling is terrible! You don't want to look like a 12 year old (unless you are).

Also, you will need to provide more information about your project. You've specified PHP. What elements do you need in this system? You said a powerful ranking system, you could elaborate some more on this for instance.
ok the ranking system include some very intresting feature
but i cant post all thing hear fearing for my idea stolen :p
but if you are seroius in this project i can pm you ok?

Oh I definitely can't participate in this project, like I was saying the risk is too great for me...Money makes the world go round, I can't possibly spend the time required on a project that I'd probably be carrying completely myself in terms of work.

Not to sound too harsh but anyone who is participating in this project will most likely not have the experience required to create quality software, no idea about version control which you need on a project like this and lack decent documentation skills needed for other programmers.

Why don't you start with some free software and customize it? Why are you running out of time? If you don't mind me asking.

Oh I definitely can't participate in this project, like I was saying the risk is too great for me...Money makes the world go round, I can't possibly spend the time required on a project that I'd probably be carrying completely myself in terms of work.

Not to sound too harsh but anyone who is participating in this project will most likely not have the experience required to create quality software, no idea about version control which you need on a project like this and lack decent documentation skills needed for other programmers.

Why don't you start with some free software and customize it? Why are you running out of time? If you don't mind me asking.
i have script and want other work on it this is very simple i think adding some new feature and changing view of site that is all

Alright, now we're getting somewhere.. Your request is slightly more reasonable, of course depending on the scale of the new features and the specifics to the altered design. But perhaps some people might find this offer slightly more attractive now.

I agree with most of these people, you should outline what you want your programmers to do and what the project involves, and whether or not you want the programmers to support the program if it breaks down.
Also outline how much wegeet and paid and about this whole
"Profit share" thing it's all very confusing

I agree with most of these people, you should outline what you want your programmers to do and what the project involves, and whether or not you want the programmers to support the program if it breaks down.
Also outline how much wegeet and paid and about this whole
"Profit share" thing it's all very confusing
if any one not intrested in this forum i will put if for bid on a relible bid system
the price there are wery resonble and competitive ;)
getcoder.com

My advice would be to touch up your English if you are going to bid on that kind of website or else like some people in this forum they will think you are a 12 year old

My advice would be to touch up your English if you are going to bid on that kind of website or else like some people in this forum they will think you are a 12 year old
i am a non english speaker with a poor unglish knowledge
but you dont know how to do a test job and meanwhile reapidedly pm me that i am willing to prticipate :p
one of the big problem in this forum is when a llitlle babay learn to spell php
rush into this forum and speak about any thing except problem explained by topic starter :thumbsup:

i am a non english speaker with a poor unglish knowledge
I know it's hard to learn another language, but there are many people on these forums whose native language isn't English, but they can write perfectly ;) . Checking over your posts now and then wouldn't go amiss.

I know it's hard to learn another language, but there are many people on these forums whose native language isn't English, but they can write perfectly ;) . Checking over your posts now and then wouldn't go amiss.

what about helping a newbie in this forum ? :mad:
i asked 3-4 question but did not get any helpfull answer

Wow this is scary. I think I'll have to say "pass."

Wow this is scary. I think I'll have to say "pass."
any one want to share in costumizung?

Myself and mordred posted relevant answers. You are unlikely to get anyone to help you in this venture here, perhaps a few newbs might have jumped on board before we posted but seeing as now the problems with this proposal are out in plain view it is most unlikely.

It is just too much of a risk for programmers to take. Have you any experience at all with managing a team of programmers on a large project?

any one want to share in costumizung?

Share in what now?

Share in what now?
in customizing a script paid offer offcourse

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