09-02-2002, 12:25 AM
i have been working with client side development for a while now
and was thinking about learning sever side language and was wondering if anyone could tell me which one would be the best for a newcomer and if possible give me references to some information on the subject.
any help would be nice thank for your time.
stupid should hurt!
09-02-2002, 09:45 AM
lol... maybe the first thing to learn is the meaning of the "SSL" in the title of this thread. It stands for Secure Sockets Layer. A protocol for sending encrypted data over the net.
09-02-2002, 09:21 PM
Excuse me for my mistake i'll rephrase
Could someone tell me what would be a good sever side development language for a begginer to start with.
There is that better!!
09-02-2002, 11:04 PM
What I meant was, when people see "new to ssl" as the name of this thread they don't think of "server side language" and may not read your post.
You could learn Perl, is installed on most servers, just like PHP. And there's ASP - Windows only.
09-02-2002, 11:13 PM
Thanks for the info but i have heard from many people that perl
is out of date and slow and to learn ASP, PHP or SQL. Whats the difference between em? Or can they all pretty much peform the same function and bound to the same limitations? Sorry if that sound like a stupid question but i dont want to go out and by books for all of them. So id like to find out the pros and cons between them before running into the jungle.
Thanks much 4 your help!
Stupid Should Hurt!
09-02-2002, 11:43 PM
As I said, ASP is Windows servers only. Perl may be out of date but is everywhere.
MySQL is not a language but a database with its own language. Often used together with a PHP website. From the PHP website you can send SQL statements to the database. I think learning PHP is a good choice.
<? Actually, I think I'm gonna learn it myself :)
09-02-2002, 11:48 PM
Take this very page for example it is named with a .php
extension but when i look at the source it just looks like html
09-03-2002, 03:51 AM
The Apache webserver that runs this site is configured so that when someone asks for a .PHP page it passes the contents of whatever.php (which is a mix of PHP script and HTML) to the PHP parser which processes the PHP portions of the script and outputs HTML from that.
so with the following PHP script ...
echo "Hello number $x <br />";
PHP sees that it has to echo to screen Hello number $x 10 times and produces the following output ..
Hello number 1
Hello number 2
Hello number 3
Hello number 4
Hello number 5
Hello number 6
Hello number 7
Hello number 8
Hello number 9
Hello number 10
the same is almost true for PERL/ASP/JSP/CFM/etc with each being handled slightly differently (soe would say less efficiently ;)) at the server end , the result though is always HTML.
09-03-2002, 05:33 AM
09-03-2002, 05:50 AM
Here is an example of what I mean
$x=array('apples', 'oranges', 'bannanas');
I appologize if there are any errors there I typed it on the fly. One language does not replace the other, but if you use both you can pull off some really good things :)
09-03-2002, 06:39 AM
on my PHP pages that sux. But i can rewrite my scripts in PHP.
Well ill be busy for the next year yahhhh!!
09-03-2002, 07:07 AM
There are some things that you can do with php, but everything has to be done before the page leaves the server, which in many cases is not what you want