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sizophyz
01-20-2005, 02:59 PM
Hi!

First thing first- great forum!

I have just finished building a dynamic flash-site, which is great fun. I wanna use Paypal on my site and therefor I have linked all my pictures & paintings in my flash document, to external html-pages. The html pages containing an enlarged picture and a simple "Add 2 Cart" button. This is my problem: How can I control the size of the Browser-window? I'm not interested in a full page with like 60% "empty waste area". One more question: Will these pages trigger the anti-popup software most people use? And eventually, how 2 bypass / sneak..
I hope I make myself understandable, took my english classes on MTV :thumbsup:

Regards

Norwegian "noob"

ronaldb66
01-20-2005, 03:27 PM
How can I control the size of the Browser-window?You can open a new browser window and control its initial size through a bit of JavaScript; just Google for "javascript open new window" or something.


I'm not interested in a full page with like 60% "empty waste area".That's not your concern, that's the user's.


Will these pages trigger the anti-popup software most people use?Although I don't have experience with it, I guess so; that's what it's for, right?


how 2 bypass / sneakFirst of all: DON'T. Second of all: I have no idea, but if anyone comes up with such a thing, I will personally send a bug report to every pop-up-killer-maker I can find.

Bottom line: almost everyone hates pop-ups, most of the time they are unnecessary and they can confuse people.

If you must open a new window, open a full one, with all the toolbars, and alert the visitor beforehand that a certain link/button will open a new window.

Graft-Creative
01-20-2005, 04:02 PM
I'm not interested in a full page with like 60% "empty waste area".


The real skill lies in making that new page look good with 60% empty space.

For the love of all that's good and beautiful in this world, dont use pop-ups
:rolleyes:

Gary

sizophyz
01-20-2005, 04:45 PM
Thanx for your reply.

But the problem is still a problem :confused:

The link's in my swf file (flashmovie) is real basic (Textlink) : maleri1.html (_blank) etc.
How and where do I trigger the opennewwindow script?
Look like I need to configure new button with following actions and so on..

Guess it should be an easier way to fix this?

Popup sucks, but when a window popup because you made the command, (by pressing a mousebutton etc.) why block it? What triggers it? Is it just because it is from flash to HTML?

This bothers me because I want to sell the stuff on my site.

Graft-Creative
01-20-2005, 05:25 PM
But the problem is still a problem :confused:

Well, this is what design is about - solving problems :)

But, really, I can't see what the problem is? You have a Flash gallery, with thumbnails - when you click on a thumb - it opens an html page, with a larger image, and the add to cart/paypal stuff?

The general opinion is that pop-ups should be avoided, as they interfere with the user's software, and distract from the user's expectations/behaviour patterns. Plus, there is a growing instinct that all pop-ups are malicious - not good if you are after selling stuff?

What I would do, is have your Flash front page, but have the gallery completely in html -using a PHP paging system like this:
On your html gallery page you have all the thumbs of your paintings at the top of the page - with an enlarged image of the selected thumb underneath. When you select another thumb; the emlarged image changes correspondingly.

Also at the botom of the page you could have something like this:

<< < 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 > >>

so people can easily view your full size paintings, one after the other, or even skip a few if they like. Hope this makes sense?

Projects like this really need to focus on the user, at least if you are hoping to sell anything - the best way is to stick with well recognised & understood conventions.

Gary

sizophyz
01-20-2005, 05:49 PM
[QUOTE=Graft-Creative]Well, this is what design is about - solving problems :)

But, really, I can't see what the problem is? You have a Flash gallery, with thumbnails - when you click on a thumb - it opens an html page, with a larger image, and the add to cart/paypal stuff?

This is all correct. But I want to regulate the size of the new HTML-based "popup" window.( Is it a popup-window, if you open it by pressing your mousebutton?) Ok, for this we use a simple script: 'openNewWindow'. So far, so good. The trouble is that my flash movie needs to trigger/talk2 the script. I'm now trying to make new buttons over the images and use actionscript..

I guess it aint no easy-way out of this :cool:

You can check out Jola's webpage, (http://www.yolart.net/EXPO/indexphoto.htm#)
he's got the link features I want on my site. The only difference is that my index is based on Flash, cause flash rules and flash sellz $$$$$$

Thanx again for your reply's

Sizophyz "Keep on rolling that rock!"

rmedek
01-20-2005, 11:38 PM
If you use javascript to control the opening of the new window, you can control the width/height of the window as well, solving your 60% empty space problem. Pop up window blockers usually only block windows that open without a request, meaning if you click a link to open pop up window it will work. About 85% of the time. :)

As far as pop-ups, I actually don't mind them on some elements, like photo galleries or shopping carts. The ones I hate are when a browser window has the intro to a website, you click on the "enter site" link, and the site opens in a pop-up window. Freakin%%$!# lazy designers.

As far as Flash rooling and sellzzzzing, well, that's like, your opinion man.



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