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chris_angell
01-12-2005, 10:28 AM
hi please could you give a little feedback on what you think about this site...

many thanks chris

http://www.cisweb.co.uk/ (http://www.cisweb.co.uk)

Sayonara
01-12-2005, 11:15 AM
- The window change javascript is user hostile (many people don't like the page deciding where their window will appear, and what size it will be),
- the page does not declare its doctype,
- the HTML is used quite poorly (replace the table with a div - all that styling and cell layout is completely unnecessary; don't use paragraph tags for non-paragraphs, etc),
- the Flash movie is not in the least bit accessible.

The visual design looks great though.

chris_angell
01-12-2005, 11:17 AM
thanks... nice feedback... :)

ronaldb66
01-12-2005, 11:47 AM
Please read the Forum Rules (http://www.codingforums.com/rules.htm): Do Not Cross-post!

As for the review:

A very rough guesstimate of a page's accessibility can be obtained by looking at in in Lynx (a text-based browser); here's what your page looks like in Lynx Viewer (http://www.delorie.com/web/lynxview.html):

[EMBED]

Accessibility: none. Chance of ever being found by a search engine: none. Chance of visitors acually attempting to decipher the puny texts found on various pages- err, slides: slim at best.

Flash can be put to good use to add visual interest to a site, and you certainly know your way around it -I give you that much, but relying solely on Flash animations for your entire site, with not a single character of readable text, is not a very smart approach (and totally unnecessary at that).

Even so, and I don't know a single thing about Flash, it seems that even Flash animations can be made -more or less- accessible; at least, do that.

_Aerospace_Eng_
01-12-2005, 11:52 AM
have you even checked your site in firefox or any other browser that isn't IE, in Firefox the flash doesn't appear full screen, and i dont like that window replace thing what if i want to resize my window so i can have other content on the screen, and also in FF for the transparency to work u have to put the parameter in the embed tag also, change your flash to this and it will be cross browser functional
<object classid="clsid:D27CDB6E-AE6D-11cf-96B8-444553540000" codebase="http://download.macromedia.com/pub/shockwave/cabs/flash/swflash.cab#version=6,0,0,0" width="100%" height="600" id="MainMovie" align="">
<param name=""movie"" value=""MainMovie.swf">
<param name="quality" value="high">
<param name="wmode" value="transparent">
<param name="scale" value="exactfit">
<param name="bgcolor" value="#BCBBA9">
<embed src="MainMovie.swf" quality="high" wmode="transparent" scale="exactfit" bgcolor="#BCBBA9" width="100%" height="600" name="MainMovie" align="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer"></embed>
</object>
after messing with the flash, i think u need a way to get back to the first frame of the flash, so a user can choose where they want to go because once on a diff area of the flash the boxes become small and hardly legible

Badman3k
01-12-2005, 12:14 PM
_Aerospace_Eng_ is right Firefox doesn't display the flash fullscreen and even when I checked it in IE at the screen size you had it set to, I'd have needed a magnifying glass to read the text.

I'm using a 1600x1200 res and the only way I can actually read your site is to maximise the window and use IE, which obviously distorts the flash. Personally I hate IE and use FF as my default browser, so to view your site I've got to go out of my way.

With that said, the design is great and it looks great. Keep it up, and sort the problems. :thumbsup:

Sayonara
01-12-2005, 12:24 PM
Even so, and I don't know a single thing about Flash, it seems that even Flash animations can be made -more or less- accessible; at least, do that.
This is true; the accessibility features in Flash MX 2004 are surprisingly good - they're a reasonable analogue of HTML accessibility, considering the limitations of the format.

Graft-Creative
01-12-2005, 12:41 PM
I posted these comments earlier (in the same thread on general web design)

'Main Movie' is not a good title for a page. The < title > tag is one of the most important elements that search engines look at for indexing - then there's the whole issue of using Flash to do a full website, and the implications of that as regards search engines.

The text in the boxes that pop up are completely unreadable to me (Windows XP Pro / Opera 7.5, 1024x768) The font is so tiny that it is just breaking up completely.

Design wise: At the moment it kinda looks like two designs hacked together - the desk theme and the modern looking boxes just aren't gelling for me personally - both are nice ideas - but they are looking like seprate ideas at the moment

Kindest Regards,

Gary

ionsurge
01-12-2005, 05:19 PM
It looks seriously pixelated @ 1920 x 1440...

chris_angell
01-12-2005, 05:22 PM
I just tried it in firebox.. the site comes out tiny ????? hmmmmm time to take away the resize code I think and up the type font

chilipie
01-12-2005, 06:01 PM
have you even checked your site in firefox or any other browser that isn't IE, in Firefox the flash doesn't appear full screen, and i dont like that window replace thing what if i want to resize my window so i can have other content on the screen, and also in FF for the transparency to work u have to put the parameter in the embed tag also, change your flash to this and it will be cross browser functional
If you want it to be even more cross-browser friendly, you might consider using ALA's Flash Satay (http://www.alistapart.com/articles/flashsatay/) method; it validates as XHTML, which is pretty good :thumbsup: .

mcdougals4all
01-12-2005, 06:28 PM
The visual impact is considerable. But what happened to my back button??

Personally, the navigation is too 'tricked out' for me, very circuitous. I want to find what I'm after quickly, not have to learn a new navigation widget for every site.

For example, on 'telecom overview' there is nothing to indicate the question mark graphic links to a contact form. Then when opening the form, using the tab key to navigate is hopeless, not too user friendly and breaking a pretty standard user expectation.

You might consider dropping individual flash pieces into actual html pages and offer some alternative content.