FrontPage Publishing

[Scootertaj]

I know I may not get a response from anyone because many ppl don't use FrontPage but I'll give it a try.

Hey I was just messing around looking at tutorials on how to publish in FrontPage and I came across a possible problem. Once I went to "Publish Site" and "Remote Web Site Properties" and chose the Web server type, I saw that in their tutorial it had the local Web site as a "http://" and mine was a "C:\documents". Is this a problem?

[mlseim]

This all goes with whether you are viewing your site offline, on your PC (with your browser), or online (with your browser). When you upload all of your webpages, access will be like: http://www.mysite.com/index.html

If you look at your page offline on your PC, all references will be to your hard-drive (C:\my documents) ... or whatever folder you have your pages stored at.

The key thing to all of this is ... on the internet (which derives from UNIX), all directory paths are separated by the "forward slash" /

With Windows (on your PC), all folder path separations are "reverse slash" \

Internet lingo uses the term "directories", Windows uses the term "folders" ... both mean the same thing.

FrontPage is notorious for messing up your image references, so when you upload your webpages, you might end up with image references as "C:\ ..."
This will not fly when you try to view your webpages online.

You can choose to put all of your web graphics in the same directory as your HTML files and this will remove all path references ... making your site viewable both online and offline. This, although acceptable, is not really preferred ... it's common to have your site organized with separate directories for HTML, images, CSS, photos, etc.

I personally will not use FrontPage, and refuse to code anything in FrontPage, but that's my personal opinion. You use the software you have available and learn from it ... perhaps in the future, you'll decide to go with something a little bit more "browser friendly". --- but, this topic could be a discussion in a whole new thread.

The important thing is to learn HTML and CSS ... Learn the basics of HTML and push your attention to CSS.

--max--

[Scootertaj]

Ah I see, that makes a lot of sense, thanks! :)

As to the FrontPage deal, well, currently I am very pleased with it.

Oh and by the way I'm not just going to use FrontPage. I know a good bit of HTML and CSS but need a little bit more practice on CSS. I will both be coding and using FrontPage.

Thanks,
Scootertaj

[Scootertaj]

Hey, I was looking in my little book that came with FP and I noticed under the "Publishing to Remote Sites and Servers" section that it said:"While FrontPage 2003 still supports the FrontPage Server Extensions, the new Remote Web Site view is the preferred method of publishing files in this and future versions"

In the Remote Web Site view you can connect through WebDAV, FTP, and File System.

I have never published a page before except through Comcast so I don't know how to do FTP and what not.
Most Hosts have FTP correct?

Is it hard? Should I use the extensions if the host has them?

Many hosts say if I want to publish through FP I must install the extenstions on the cPanel which I have seen how to do on a demo.

Thanks,
Scootertaj

[mlseim]

That creates an interesting situation.

Most people that code manually (like myself) use a stand-alone
FTP program to transfer files back and forth between my computer
and my website (my host where I rent my webspace storage).
Yes, most hosts allow FTP. I like it better because it's faster than
using an online website control panel thing.

FrontPage and other webpage editors offer the use of built-in FTP
features that you configure within the program. It allows you to
make changes on-the-fly and uploads your pages with a click of
a button.

I may be wrong about this, but if you create a website using
FrontPage and then exit the program and use a stand-alone FTP
program to transfer the files, you won't be setting up the
extensions. I don't know what would happen. This may be where
you read about using a CPanel to set things up.

The whole FP extension deal is very strange to me. It just doesn't
seem compatible with anything else.

I think a current FP expert should "chime-in" here now and set
the record straight.

[Scootertaj]

FrontPage and other webpage editors offer the use of built-in FTP features that you configure within the program

Yes FP has this. I believe this is Remote Web Site view. ONce you select the Web server to which you want to connect such as FTP, WebDAV, FP Extensions, you then put in your website address and then you do a thing called "synchronizing files" and publish files. Synchronizing files makes it so the most recent version of your webpage is uploaded to your webserver, so as you said it's just with a click of the button.

I hope an FP expert can chime in on this!

Scootertaj

[Scootertaj]

Any FP experts out there?

[ronaldb66]

Isn't there a support forum for FP somewhere, maybe on the MS site?
As you already expected, I don't think there are a lot of avid FP users around here; based on my encounters with DW, I'd suggest going for FTP, though. I expect it to be the most widely used and supported protocol for uploading files to a server. Not every host supports FP extensions, and by the look of it, neither does MS anymore... :o

Go to the MS homepage and search for "Frontpage 2003"; you'll get a bunch of links to various information resources. I get redirected to the dutch section so you'll have to try it yourself.

[Scootertaj]

Yea I already have the site favorited. I guess I can Email them, but I just wish there were more FP fans. I haven't seen any earlier versions but I like FP 2003, it's easy to code, design and what not.

I looked around and it seems that going with FTP or Windows SharePoint services will be the best choices. I'll probably go with FTP.

Just a quick question about FTP:

When it asks for your Remote Web site location why does it do ftp:// do you just type in your website like instead of www.myname.com (http://www.mysite.com) you do ftp://mysite.com ??

Also what is the FTP directory?

Thanks,
Scootertaj

[nite1x]

If you check for an FAQ page on your host's site, they will generally have information regarding what information to enter into whichever FTP client you have. They should also have information regarding support of FP extensions.
For example, http://faq.1and1.com is my host's FAQ page.
To answer your question about the name for the Remote site, if your domain name is www.mysite.com then the name you enter would be ftp://mysite.com. Then you will likely have to enter a username and password assigned to you by your host.

FTP stands for File Transfer Protocol. When you enter a web address starting with ftp:// you are connecting to a computer configured for file transfer, either for uploading or downloading.

Hope this helps you out a bit.

Nite

[Scootertaj]

they will generally have information regarding what information to enter into whichever FTP client you have.

What do you mean whichever FTP client I have?

I guess I should get a host before I ask too many questions :) . that makes sence www.mysite.com turns into ftp://mysite.com.

Thanks a lot!