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SpiritualStorms
09-08-2004, 05:53 AM
How do i get my hands on ASP? Is it a free software application?

BuddhaMan
09-08-2004, 06:52 AM
Hmmmmm...how do I answer that?

ASP stands for Active Server Pages and it's a server-side script that outputs HTML and is available with Internet Information Server. You can use Javascript, VBScript, PERL, and probably some other languages by now to code up the scripted part of an ASP page.

If you're just now getting started, I'd suggest downloading the ASP.NET Web Matrix (it's free) to start coding in and then your'e starting out with the latest technology. It also has a small webserver named Casini (also free) that can be installed and can dish out your web pages if you don't have an IIS server handy. I believe IIS comes with WinXP Pro (not sure) if you want to install the full-blown version.

Someone will probably post a much better answer than this. ;)

SpiritualStorms
09-08-2004, 08:04 AM
To my knowledge, IIS only came with XP Professional, but not with the Home Edition. Is there way of getting the aforementioned item without having to purchase XP Professional? Or am i stuck with what yu recommended?

fractalvibes
09-08-2004, 03:27 PM
Check out the Microsoft site - their should be a very lightweight server software available called Personal Web Server - think it will be within some
NT 4 fixpack listing, but cannot remember precisely...

fv

SpiritualStorms
09-08-2004, 09:47 PM
If you're just now getting started, I'd suggest downloading the ASP.NET Web Matrix (it's free) to start coding in and then your'e starting out with the latest technology. It also has a small webserver named Casini (also free) that can be installed and can dish out your web pages if you don't have an IIS server handy. I believe IIS comes with WinXP Pro (not sure) if you want to install the full-blown version.


I typed ASP.NET Web Matrix in a search engine search box, and sure enough, it took me to the following site:

http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/

I had to download this thing called .NET Framework. At any rate, i will be spending some time i think trying to learn the interface. Seems simple though. Its like one of those WYSIWYG editors one uses for webpages.

SpiritualStorms
09-08-2004, 10:07 PM
I couldnt find your suggestion:


Check out the Microsoft site - their should be a very lightweight server software available called Personal Web Server - think it will be within some
NT 4 fixpack listing, but cannot remember precisely...

fv

From the links i got, the impression is that PWS comes with the windows 98 cd. But as far as an independant download, i couldnt find anything. I got these sites:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/ie/pws
http://www.studiodeluxe.net/pws/index.htm

For the second, there was this set of statements:


User's of the Standard Windows 2000 and Windows XP may not be able to use the Personal Web Server, but instead may wish to try the Apache Web Server at http://www.apache.org.

http://www.serverwatch.com/stypes/servers/article.php/15907_1434261

At any rate, there doesnt seem to be a PWS for Windows XP.

fractalvibes
09-08-2004, 10:32 PM
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/recommended/NT4OptPk/default.asp

SpiritualStorms
09-08-2004, 10:39 PM
I am afraid that link wont be of any use to me. At the very top of that page, it asks that one first selects the OS. Well, from the drop down list, i didnt see any OS that related specifically to XP.

By the way, i did go to that site before you posted the link.

SpiritualStorms
09-09-2004, 01:22 AM
ASP stands for Active Server Pages and it's a server-side script that outputs HTML and is available with Internet Information Server. You can use Javascript, VBScript, PERL, and probably some other languages by now to code up the scripted part of an ASP page.


This may sound like a stupid question, but i am not sure what ASP is really. I know what it stands for, but since you mentioned above that it can also be used with any number of languages to code up the scripted part of an ASP page, i am wondering as to what sort of language this then. This confuses me.

JavaScript for example is one type of programming language that is primarily client side. PHP, which i didnt totally get why it was so complex in its IDE part, is i suppose another programming language that is in competition with Java, and Perl. In this sense, i have an idea of how programming languages differ from one another, but i am not sure how to understand the existance of ASP. Is it workable with Apache? Or is it a totally different programming language that has nothing to do with independant programming languages like those mentioned.

In other words, when i downloaded the Web Matrix as suggested in another post, the download looks to me to be more like an actual application than lets say an IDE, which is what one needs for something like JAVA. So is ASP an actual programming language, as well as an interface?

My other questions then is that its not an actual SERVER application, but rather an actual language, right? The WEB Matrix then, is sort of like a bundle of intergrated programs that can be utilised, and manipulated through a common interface, correct? In relation to Perl, PHP, and Java, how significant is ASP? In other words, how does it rate in comparison to the other languages?

glenngv
09-09-2004, 05:00 AM
ASP (http://www.devguru.com/Technologies/asp/quickref/asp_intro.html) is a technology and VBScript (http://www.devguru.com/Technologies/vbscript/quickref/vbscript_intro.html) is its default scripting language. You can also use server-side Javascript or JScript as the scripting language.

SpiritualStorms
09-09-2004, 05:32 AM
So by technology, ASP is like the Java Virtual Machine, which is some what akin to an IDE, or a sub-OS, correct?

BuddhaMan
09-09-2004, 06:13 AM
Don't use PWS, get Cassini (http://aspnet.4guysfromrolla.com/articles/082702-1.aspx) which is free and written in C#, a .NET language. If you installed the Web Matrix, I think it's already installed on your amchine anyways.

Look here:

C:\Program Files\Microsoft ASP.NET Web Matrix\v0.6.812\WebServer.exe

If it's not installed, you can download it here: http://www.asp.net/Projects/Cassini/Download/Default.aspx?tabindex=0&tabid=1

Web Matrix is a simple developer IDE for ASP.NET which saves it's files with a .aspx extension (and others) which execute on the server and are output to the user as HTML, XHTML, XML, etc in a browser (whatever the developer wants).

glenngv
09-09-2004, 07:19 AM
So by technology, ASP is like the Java Virtual Machine, which is some what akin to an IDE, or a sub-OS, correct?
No. ASP is like JSP or Servlet. JSP/Servlet uses Java as the language while ASP uses only scripting language (not a full-pledged language) like VBScript.



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