Frame trouble

[IAMTHEEVILBEAN]

OK.

I have a question.

I have 4 bars....one for each side one on the top and one on the bottem to enclose news.

I want to make the four bars surround it and have the news scrollable inside.

What I dont know how to do....is make the 4 things surround it.

I made a php news script and have it go t the page.

here is what I have so far

www.tehdot.com/site.php

I cant figure it out

[]|V|[agnus]

you would have to nest framesets.

if you want the side ones flush with the top and bottom of the viewport, then you'd have an outer frameset containing 1 row and 3 columns. the middle column would then container another frameset with 3 rows and 1 column. the middle row would hold your news content.

if you want the top and bottom rows flush with the sides, then your outer frameset would be 3 rows and 1 column. the middle row would contain the second frameset which would be 1 row and 3 columns. the middle column would hold your news content.

if i understand what you're asking correctly, i think that's what you want.

i think you should consider abandoning the frameset idea though, because it creates far more hassle in dealing with your files and coordinating things than is necessary for such an unecessary design technique. why not just have a page that scales to fit the content and scrolls within the whole browser window? people are not dumb, they'll be able to find the header and things once they get to the bottom. in addition to that, framesets create problems with the browser navigation (back forward buttons) that is counter-intuitive to the very existence of the buttons. they're there to help users, and by creating a frameset, you're undoing all of that work and consideration, potentially. not necessarily, it CAN be done fine, but potentially.

i dunno. framesets are just sort of an archaic idea that not many people seriously consider anymore unless they have to: case being a site with a flash banner and/or navigation. it's standard to use a frameset then so that the animation doesn't reload an reanimate when each new page is loaded.