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Vasudha
08-06-2002, 06:15 AM
HOW DARE YOU ACCUSE ME OF REMOVING THE COPY RIGHT
NOTICE FROM THIS SCRIPT! WHO IN THE HELL DO YOU THINK
YOU ARE? GOD OR SOME THING?

I DID NOT. I REPEAT I DID NOT REMOVE ANY THING FROM THIS
SCRIPT BELOW.

I GOT THIS SCRIPT FROM THIS WEB SITE EXACTLY THE WAY I
HAVE PASTED IT HERE.

HERE GO AND CHECK....

http://html_help4u.tripod.com/img_refl.html

IT CAME FROM HERE:

http://html_help4u.tripod.com/effects.html#image


AND THEN I WANT A PROMPT APOLOGY
FROM YOU OR I AM GOING TO REPORT YOU FOR NEGLIGENCE.
YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS WHAT SO EVER TO FALSELY AND VERY
WRONG ACCUSE ME OF SOME THING I DID NOT DO!

GET A LIFE!:mad::mad:




Vasudha
Junior Member

Registered: Aug 2002
Location: NYC - USA
Posts: 1
Why The GAP please????
I have been using this code.




code:--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<center>
<!--Change following image name to your own-->
<img id="reflect" src="http://members.truepath.com/cheekymomto3/newbanner.gif">
<br>
<script language="JavaScript1.2">

function f1(){
setInterval("mdiv.filters.wave.phase+=10",100);
}

if (document.all){
document.write('<img id=mdiv src="'+document.all.reflect.src+'" style=" filter:wave(strength=3,freq=3,phase=0,lightstrengt
h=30) blur() flipv()">')
window.onload=f1
}

</script>
</center>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------





Here it is as you can see on this link:


http://www.boomspeed.com/juners45/


I cannot figure out for the life of me why there is a gap between
the image and the reflection!

How do I fix this please to have it totally joined.

Any help is greatfully received.



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08-05-2002 05:03 AM

WA
Administrator

Registered: Mar 2002
Location: North America
Posts: 138
This is a script from Dynamicdrive.com, yet you've removed the copyright notice. We do not provide support to those that violate other's work/ terms of service. Please reinstate copyright notice first.

Closing thread.


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x_goose_x
08-06-2002, 06:21 AM
Ha. IE a better browser. That's funny.

Vasudha
08-06-2002, 06:39 AM
YEAH WELL DONT BOTHER POINTING THE FINGER AT ME. FOR
A START ITS NOT MY SITE. SECONDLY I DO NOT EVEN KNOW
WHAT THE HECK A I.E BROWSER IS!:(

WA
08-06-2002, 06:40 AM
Hi Vasudha:
You're right, I was obviously too haste when passing my judgment. You obtained the script from a source that didn't contain the copyright notice, illegally I may add. Without more information the blame should be put on the site in question, not you. We deal with a lot of such violations, so I apologize in jumping to conclusions.

FYI, the original and true copy of the script can be found here: http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex4/reflect.htm Please add in the copyright notice if you wish to continue using it.

p.s: In the future, I will ask that you email/PM me regarding such personal matters. I'm not always 100% on top of things, but that doesn't give any member the right to use the forum to air their grievances. Email me instead using the contact link above.

This thread will self terminate in a few hours.

Thanks,

Vasudha
08-06-2002, 06:43 AM
I dont care if this post is deleted in a few hours. At least
you apologized and for that I am extremely greatful.

Yes I will email you in future instead of posting it here.


Thank you again for your apology!:thumbsup:

Pooh
08-06-2002, 07:19 AM
X_goose IE is a better browser by far and that's a great site for a lot of scripts and various info. Hope he didn't lift a script :eek: But then again you'll have 18 idiots submitting the same script to different sites all claiming they authored it.

jkd
08-06-2002, 07:34 AM
Originally posted by Pooh
X_goose IE is a better browser by far

Heh, since this thread will self-destruct soon enough, I'm gonna have a little fun....

IE absolutely sucks! There, I said it, and here are my reasons:

Javascript - weak implementation and horrible error reporting

Images - alpha channel + png images without cheap hacks, 'nuff said

Standards - here's the doozy: horrible CSS2 support, horrible XHTML support (MS says up to 1.0 transitional, but considering we have 1.0 strict, modular xhtml, xhtml basic, xhtml 1.1, and now a xhtml 2.0 WD out....), no DOM2 support (you could argue it supports whatever DOM2 Core didn't change from DOM1), horrible XML support (no XML rendering of XHTML without indentity transform xslt document, no XLink support at all, missing support for many important/useful xml applications inline - doesn't support their namespaces, such as svg, mathml, etc)

the list keeps on going. And you know what? My favorite rendering engine (Gecko) does everything I just listed IE can't. It also goes above and beyond that by implementing many CSS3 selectors and pseudo-classes, as well as certain CSS3 properties through -moz-propname, not to mention support for the DOM3 XPath interface (in WD, last call).

*sigh* If only everyone used Gecko...

firepages
08-06-2002, 08:19 PM
"*sigh* If only everyone used Gecko..."

lol then we would have a browser that could do everything that no-one actually uses anyway

"horrible XML support (no XML rendering of XHTML without indentity transform xslt document, no XLink support"

damn & I was just about to do some identity transformation as well, never mind..... Xlink - how `standard` is that at the moment ? and why doesnt gecko support <layers> ?

half the thinks you speak of Jason are working draughts and specialised fields, where perhaps moz will excel ?, that a browser can display HTML/XHTML and can utilise javascript seems sufficient, at least thats what 92% of internet users appear to think ? ;) (I know)

beetle
08-06-2002, 09:08 PM
Whoa there jkd. Gecko is great, but far from perfect. There are many things that IE does that Gecko does not that are very useful (and many times more useful than not yet official recommendations such as CSS3) like DHTML behaviors and Dynamic Properties.

You have to remember, when someone says "IE is better" than it's probably in a significant context, such as "I don't use XML, MathML, SVG, CSS, or any of that crap, so why should I care about Gecko? At least I can use document.all. Oh ya, and what's XHTML?"

So, just becuse Gecko is teacher's pet to the W3C, doesn't mean it is impirically better.

BTW, just for the record...I think Gecko does kicks some serious a** :D

jkd
08-06-2002, 10:57 PM
Originally posted by beetle
Whoa there jkd. Gecko is great, but far from perfect. There are many things that IE does that Gecko does not that are very useful (and many times more useful than not yet official recommendations such as CSS3) like DHTML behaviors and Dynamic Properties.

You have to remember, when someone says "IE is better" than it's probably in a significant context, such as "I don't use XML, MathML, SVG, CSS, or any of that crap, so why should I care about Gecko? At least I can use document.all. Oh ya, and what's XHTML?"

So, just becuse Gecko is teacher's pet to the W3C, doesn't mean it is impirically better.

BTW, just for the record...I think Gecko does kicks some serious a** :D

I've extensively worked with IE's behaviors, and find Gecko's XBL superior. As for dynamic properties, the watch() property of the object is infinitely more useful, and can be used to emulate it.

MathML, SVG, and CSS are some of the most important emerging technologies for web browsers - your simple dismissal of them will be something you'll regret later on.

And *why* would you ever want to use document.all? Even the W3C DOM1 methods of locating elements are far superior in implementation.

I think you have the wrong idea of a browser that strictly follows standards... its not so that they can claim anything over others, but rather it is an effort to make our lives simpler and easier. People who think they are stupid are only ruining the future of web design and related jobs.

beetle
08-06-2002, 11:15 PM
And *why* would you ever want to use document.all? Even the W3C DOM1 methods of locating elements are far superior in implementation. I don't, I was speaking through someone else's mouth. Just an example of a typical reponse I've gotten on this subject. That's why I typed it within double quotes
MathML, SVG, and CSS are some of the most important emerging technologies for web browsers - your simple dismissal of them will be something you'll regret later on. I don't dismiss them. I love them. I rarely have a use for MathML, but it's cool anyways.
I've extensively worked with IE's behaviors, and find Gecko's XBL superior. As for dynamic properties, the watch() property of the object is infinitely more useful, and can be used to emulate it. Thanks for the heads up on these. I know about XBL and like it. But, the fact of the matter is that most people (by a VERY large majority) use IE. Until this is not true, you will have to accept the fact that people on this board are largely looking for IE solutions, and many of them are hobbyists, who certainly will not regret ignoring such things as CSS3. The story is obviously different for web professionals such as you and myself.
I think you have the wrong idea of a browser that strictly follows standards... its not so that they can claim anything over others, but rather it is an effort to make our lives simpler and easier. People who think they are stupid are only ruining the future of web design and related jobs. I agree 100%, but even you have to admit that object.innerHTML is a whole lot "easier and simpler" than all the appendChild mess you have to use with the correct DOM method.
</rebuttal> :D

dagaffer
08-06-2002, 11:21 PM
this is fun

x_goose_x
08-06-2002, 11:45 PM
I love starting things.

jkd
08-07-2002, 03:20 AM
Originally posted by beetle
but even you have to admit that object.innerHTML is a whole lot "easier and simpler" than all the appendChild mess you have to use with the correct DOM method.
</rebuttal> :D

Wait until browsers support the DOM3 Load and Save interface... it takes care of innerHTML and a lot more... ;)

I'll shut up now :), I've argued web standards more than enough...

:: wonders when topic will self-destruct ::

beetle
08-07-2002, 06:48 AM
Wait? but innerHTML is here now (and has been!) hehe. I understand what you are saying. Been a good debate

. o 0 ( wonders if jkd spends all his free time reading www.w3.org ) :D

P.S. This message will self-destruct in 5 seconds. Wait, make that 10. Err one minute...no no no...five minutes. Oh hell, we don't know when, just grab your knickers!

whammy
08-28-2002, 01:13 AM
What's funny about this thread is it's not much more important than getting browsers to render text and tables in the same way. If you're going to shoot for standards, let's start with basics!

I propose that all browsers have identical methods of rendering tables, and that all OS's recognize a basic set of fonts. Until they can do that, you're not going to get CLOSE to anything you guys are talking about.

This sounds "newbieish" - but it's something I've had frustration with for a long time, even though I know how to make "workarounds" regarding this stuff.

But really - if you're going to make standards, they have to go from the bottom up. First step is to make textareas have a "maxlength" - something that Netscrape and IE have never figured out to this day (although I have read complaints from the 80's (I think - at least the early 90's!) in this regard!). LOL :D

MAC and IE font types should also have a default equivalent besides "Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif", and should have some kind of table to match up fonts built into the browsers, so people don't have to worry about the font display.

This is just teeny tiny stuff - but it's all very annoying... just as much as trying to get a DHTML script to work cross-browser in some instances.

Basically it all boils down to one thing - standards. Don't let the browser makers implement proprietary code - all it does is tick off developers and cause errors on client machines (and backwards compatibility is something I don't have to talk to you about!!!).

If you have an improvement, submit it to the W3C.

If you don't like the W3C, create a better standards organization!

:D



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