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zoobie
02-02-2004, 02:21 AM
Uhh...Where is this exclamation mark (!) in the lower left hand corner in IE coming from in the index and 'suggestions' pages @ http://doof.us/fence/ ? I've used the search feature in my text editor...doesn't see it either.
Thanks

mindlessLemming
02-02-2004, 02:39 AM
Weird, damn weird.
I downloaded your site and tried to fix it, but with no success :(
Although you have some big coding errors!
Example:


<UL>
<LI>1 Year Guarantee
<LI>Quality Craftsmanship
<LI>Quality Materials
<LI>Prompt and Friendly Service
<LI>Custom fence designs
<LI>Timely Installation </LI></UL>
MUST BE:


<UL>
<LI>1 Year Guarantee</li>
<LI>Quality Craftsmanship</li>
<LI>Quality Materials</li>
<LI>Prompt and Friendly Service</li>
<LI>Custom fence designs</li>
<LI>Timely Installation </LI>
</UL>

*You did not quote any of your links' class attributes. class=link should be class="link".

**You have only closed ONE of your <p> tags. Every tag must be closed. <p> is NOT A SPACER!

Even after fixing all your coding errors, I still couldn't get rid of the damn "!"... :mad:

Nightfire
02-02-2004, 02:43 AM
Maybe it's one of the comment tags messing up somehow? That's all I can think of

mindlessLemming
02-02-2004, 02:47 AM
THAT"S IT!

I tried getting rid of your comment under the content, but that wasn't it.
BUt get rid of ALL the comments and it's all good :)
Seeing as I've already corrected it, here's your HTML


<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3c.org/TR/1999/REC-html401-19991224/loose.dtd">

<HTML><HEAD><TITLE>Fence Experts - Fencing Erie Lafayette Louisville Broomfield Superior Colorado</TITLE>
<META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<LINK href="Colorado_files/style.css" type=text/css rel=stylesheet>
<META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1264" name=GENERATOR></HEAD>
<BODY>
<DIV style="TEXT-ALIGN: center">
<DIV class=container_page>
<DIV class=img_header>
<DIV class=container_logo>
<DIV class=header>FENCE EXPERTS</DIV>
<DIV class=header2>Residential &amp; Commercial Fencing</DIV>
<H1>Serving<BR>Erie Lafayette Louisville Broomfield
Superior<BR>Colorado</H1></DIV>
<DIV class=header3>SPECIALIZING IN QUALITY CEDAR PRIVACY FENCES</DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=container_menu><A href="http://doof.us/fence/privacy.html">Privacy
Fence</A> <A href="http://doof.us/fence/#">Vinyl Fence</A> <A
href="http://doof.us/fence/#">Split Rail Fence</A> <A
href="http://doof.us/fence/#">Chain Link Fence</A> <A
href="http://doof.us/fence/#">Ornamental Iron</A> <A class=instant
href="http://doof.us/fence/estimate.html">INSTANT ESTIMATE</A> <A
href="http://doof.us/fence/faq.html">Suggestions</A> <A
href="http://doof.us/fence/specs.html">Specifications</A> <A
href="http://doof.us/fence/tell.html">Tell-A-Friend</A> <A
href="http://doof.us/fence/contact.html">Contact Us</A> </DIV>
<DIV class=container_main><IMG style="BORDER-TOP-WIDTH: 0px; BORDER-LEFT-WIDTH: 0px; FLOAT: right; BORDER-BOTTOM-WIDTH: 0px; MARGIN: -5px 0px -5px 5px; WIDTH: 360px; HEIGHT: 159px; BORDER-RIGHT-WIDTH: 0px"
alt="FENCE EXPERTS serving Erie Lafayette Louisville Broomfield Superior Colorado"
src="Colorado_files/stockadefence.jpg">
<P>The traditional beauty and function of fencing makes it a great home addition
in style and value.
<P>Whether you've moved into a new home, have young children or a new pet, or
are simply looking for some extra privacy or security, fencing offers an
aesthetically pleasing and functional solution.
<P>FENCE EXPERTS offers a variety of woods and styles to choose. Our friendly
knowledgable representatives understand the specific wood and hardware
requirements for your needs, climate, location, home style, and budget.
<P>Choose from an assortment of stockade cedar privacy, vinyl, split rail,
chain-link, and ornamental iron. All fences are guaranteed in quality and
craftsmanship for 1 year.
<P>Our <A class=link href="http://doof.us/fence/estimate.html">INSTANT
ESTIMATE</A> feature enables you to get an accurate price on your fencing
addition or replacement. Simply choose your fence type, gates, and footage. Your
online estimate is instantly displayed.
<P>FENCE EXPERTS include:
<UL>
<LI>1 Year Guarantee</li>
<LI>Quality Craftsmanship</li>
<LI>Quality Materials</li>
<LI>Prompt and Friendly Service</li>
<LI>Custom fence designs</li>
<LI>Timely Installation </LI></UL></p>
<P><A class="link" href="http://doof.us/fence/faq.html">Suggestions</A> helps with
the task of dealing with neighbor situations. Solutions including cost reduction
can be found here.</p>
<P><A class="link" href="http://doof.us/fence/specs.html">Specifications</A> shows
the basic blueprints for fence building. Always wondered how a fence is actually
built? Check out this page and see.</p>
<P><A class="link" href="http://doof.us/fence/tell.html">Tell-A-Friend</A> about
FENCE EXPERTS. Use this page to inform your friends and neighbors about the
benefits of a quality intallation by FENCE EXPERTS.</p>
<P><A class="link" href="http://doof.us/fence/contact.html">Contact</A> or call
FENCE EXPERTS today at 720-890-8650 for your free estimate! </P></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>


Andrew

*edit: you'll have to tweak your CSS now that I've added closing tags to your <li>'s.
26 minutes between posting and getting a solution... you're a lucky man ;)

zoobie
02-02-2004, 02:53 AM
Originally posted by mindlessLemming
Although you have some big coding errors!
Example:


<UL>
<LI>1 Year Guarantee
<LI>Quality Craftsmanship
<LI>Quality Materials
<LI>Prompt and Friendly Service
<LI>Custom fence designs
<LI>Timely Installation </LI></UL>

*You did not quote any of your links' class attributes. class=link should be class="link".

**You have only closed ONE of your <p> tags. Every tag must be closed. <p> is NOT A SPACER!

Even after fixing all your coding errors, I still couldn't get rid of the damn "!"... :mad:

Er...huh? Sorry man...but I think your browser's gone ga ga. There's absolutely none of what you mentioned above on my page(s). It also validates HTML 4.01 strict and css

mindlessLemming
02-02-2004, 03:02 AM
Originally posted by zoobie
Er...huh? Sorry man...but I think your browser's gone ga ga. There's absolutely none of what you mentioned above on my page(s). It also validates HTML 4.01 strict and css

LOL! You're right, I opened it in IE to see the error, then saved entire site so I could work on it locally....
IE totally brutalised your code!!!! It removed closing tags and changed all tags to uppercase! What a P.O.S.!!!

I didn't think a long term member like yourself would have written the pile of crap IE made :)

But at least you got a solution ;)

zoobie
02-02-2004, 03:17 AM
Originally posted by mindlessLemming
What a P.O.S.!!!

I didn't think a long term member like yourself would have written the pile of crap IE made :)

Heh heh...Actually, I did write a "pile" the other day. I've never written a page the same way twice.
Thanks...It's gone!

Mhtml
02-03-2004, 01:05 PM
Zoob you aren't an exception when it comes to naming threads! Makes it seem like we discriminate against junior members if you can get away with it ;) ... "==>!<==" could probably have been written as "Unexplained characters in IE" or something.

On another note that is a really weird problem you had, I've never had IE do that before!

ArcticFox
02-03-2004, 02:19 PM
Sounds like a mindless mistake to me. IE doesn't remove code.

:rolleyes:

liorean
02-03-2004, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by ArcticFox
Sounds like a mindless mistake to me. IE doesn't remove code.Yes it does. When iew saves to file, it saves a document generated from it's in-memory document tree, it does not save the actual code. This means that it does such things as removing quotes around some attributes, it uppercases all tag names, it doesn't include end tag when they may be implicit, it reformats your CSS (in some ways that a better CSS parser, such as the one in moz, saf and op7 would choke on, but that are the same for iew) etc. About the only thing it doesn't take from it's memory representation instead of cache are binary file types and scripts.

Especially you will notice that it changes the things it doesn't recognise. Which means it removes entirely legal css constructs, among other things.

Roy Sinclair
02-03-2004, 07:22 PM
I'm pretty sure Arctic Fox was being sarcastic, that's why this ( :rolleyes: ) feller was hanging on that message.

Thanks for an explanation of why IE would perform such horrible surgery on a page when it's saved.

mindlessLemming
02-04-2004, 12:23 AM
Originally posted by ArcticFox
Sounds like a mindless mistake to me. IE doesn't remove code.

:rolleyes:

Yeah right! I've never written a tag in capitals in my LIFE!
Cheap shot though Arctic Fox!
Thanks for bringing in the truth David (liorean) :D

Willy Duitt
02-04-2004, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by mindlessLemming
Yeah right! I've never written a tag in capitals in my LIFE!

I do it all the time when I write example code :eek:

Such as:

<script type="text/javascript">
function alertMe(){
alert('You have been alerted!');
}
</script>
</HEAD>

<BODY onload="alertMe()">

.....Willy :D

Mhtml
02-04-2004, 08:48 AM
Originally posted by mindlessLemming
Yeah right! I've never written a tag in capitals in my LIFE!
Cheap shot though Arctic Fox!
Thanks for bringing in the truth David (liorean) :D

Alright, before this possibly ends up in a nice flame ( which I know wouldn't happen with members like you guys right? ) I'm closing the thread. Problem was answered and we're all much the wiser thanks to liorean.

*Thread closed*.



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