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boxer_1
06-19-2002, 01:59 PM
I don’t want to over do it with the “polls” here; I believe they could become an annoyance quite quickly if overused.

Since most (if not all) of us here are involved in web development, at least to some degree anyway, I think a graphical view of what some of us here consider to be our favorite browser might be interesting, if not valuable, information.

Considering developmental the nature of our members, I don’t expect that this poll is going to be representative of what the average surfer is using, but interesting nonetheless. I also realize that for developmental purposes, many of you use multiple browsers and keep older versions on hand for testing purposes. Personally, I use IE6, Mozilla 1.0, Amaya 6.1, and NN4.7 (when my other comp is not on the fritz :rolleyes: ). Mozilla is probably my favorite from a developer’s standpoint (FYI link: Known bugs in the Mozilla DOM (http://www.mozilla.org/docs/dom/mozilla/known.html)). Amaya is nice as well and allows quick previewing or, for example, how a particular graphic would look on a page.

For the sake of this poll, please vote for the browser you use most often, preferably the one you use when you’re surfing the net for recreation, as opposed to when your testing or developing.

In the thread, you might list what other browsers you use, what you are anticipating in a future release, what you’d like to see in future releases, and any thing else you feel is relevant to a discussion on browsers. What is the browser share of your visitors according to you site logs? How far back in the legacy browser tree do you currently account for when designing?

Any relevant feedback, links, resources, etc. welcomed. Hopefully, between the poll and the comments, this thread will generate some tidbits of information all of us might find useful to some degree ;).

ronaldb66
06-19-2002, 02:25 PM
Hmmm, the poll went haywire. Is it me, or is there something wrong? Any others tried it yet?

justame
06-19-2002, 02:29 PM
box...
just a rotflmao®!!!

IE 6 1 25.00%
NS 6 0 0%
IE 5x 0 0%
Pre IE5 0 0%
NS 4.7 2 50.00% <---!!! just a yes® hehehe...
Pre NS 4.7 0 0%
Mozilla 1.0+ 1 25.00%
Amaya 0 0%
Opera 0 0%
Other? 0 0%
Total: 4 votes 100%

QuackHead
06-19-2002, 02:41 PM
Well, I know I'll probably get a lot of flack for this, but my favourite browser is IE5/IE6. I think it's the most well-rounded browser out there... you may tend to disagree - you are allowed to, this is an opinion thread ;)

I'm looking forward to the release of.......

Well, not Netscape 7 - they're just adding all kinds of additional features that IE has had in it since version 4... (well, maybe 5)

Umm .. other than that - I think it'll be great to see all the next generation browsers that are actually 100% compliant with the HTML/DOM specs.

Later

~Quack

boxer_1
06-19-2002, 02:47 PM
Originally posted by QuackHead
Well, I know I'll probably get a lot of flack for this, but my favourite browser is IE5/IE6. I think it's the most well-rounded browser out there... you may tend to disagree - you are allowed to, this is an opinion thread ;)

I'm looking forward to the release of.......

Well, not Netscape 7 - they're just adding all kinds of additional features that IE has had in it since version 4... (well, maybe 5)

Umm .. other than that - I think it'll be great to see all the next generation browsers that are actually 100% compliant with the HTML/DOM specs.

Later

~Quack

Hey...you'll get no flack from me :). I used to be a diehard NN user, but right now IE 6 comes in a close second behind Mozilla.

QuackHead
06-19-2002, 03:03 PM
sweet, at least I've got someone on my side ;)

Thanks boxer boy

I've never used Mozilla.. is it really as nice as I'm hearing?

~Quack

allida77
06-19-2002, 03:14 PM
I have really only tracked stats constantly on one site for about a year. It is always 90 % ie and 10% netscape. The site has about 2000 unique sessions per week.

I use ie 5-6 and moz all the time for development and personal use. I do not see a significant difference and would not rank one over the other. I do find it annoying when getting plugins for moz sometimes though.

Death to netscape. It is the worthless piece I have ever used. It seems to get worse with every version. I think people use it because they hate microsoft or just want to say "Great site but it doesnt look right in NN 4.0 - 6.0"

A browser is a browser if the person coding a web site follows standards somewhat then there should not be problems(except netscape).

boxer_1
06-19-2002, 03:25 PM
Originally posted by QuackHead
...I've never used Mozilla.. is it really as nice as I'm hearing?

~Quack

The whole poll is essentially a matter of personal preference, so there really isn't any wrong answers ;).

I really like mozilla! It's open source ( http://www.mozilla.org/start/1.0/opensource.html ) and really development oriented( http://zvon.org/ ). There are 'skins' available to customize the look/feel (you can even get involved with developing them).

The 'sidebar' is awesome, allowing XHTML, CSS, DOM, etc. references right at your fingertips. http://zvon.org/Output/bar_list.html Many of these features are available for other browsers as well.

Definitely worth a look (IMO) ;).

mouse
06-19-2002, 03:51 PM
From 12,000 hits so far this month my top 15 user agents in stats are all - except a few download leeching things - versions of Internet Explorer.
I prefer IE6, I like MSN Explorer too but for it's limited functionality for those of us not just casually browsing.
I've tried things like K-mleon before which was good, I liked its stripped out, non flashy interface and speed.

newmate
06-19-2002, 06:47 PM
When I had a Mac I used NN 4x. Now all I have are Windows PCs so I have been using IE whatever newest non beta. I don't like NN lately, it's slow and too many people don't code their webs to it (not NN's fault). Opera's young yet and getting better. Of the few other browsers I've tried I have not been impressed. I will say that the MSN explorer is a nasty thing, I would be too ashamed to ever admit to having anything to do with it's development!

boxer_1
06-19-2002, 11:17 PM
Interesting feeback thus far people...thanks ;). I sort of expected that IE 6 would get the lion's share of the votes. I'm surprised that NS 6 hasn't received a single vote yet. When it first came out there was a lot of chatter about how much people liked it and couldn't wait to download it...lol.

I voted for Mozilla as that IS what I use most often (even though I'm in IE 6 myself right now :D) and see a couple others have indicated Mozilla as well.

Flamerule
06-24-2002, 06:26 PM
Opera is nice but the ads are annoying, I would rather use NetCaptor (http://www.netcaptor.com/index.php?a=1000) for a tab browser.

Netscape.... Well Netscape is old. NN and IE went different ways and people followed IE. Now it's slow and few people do cross-browser code to it.

I prefer Mozilla... integrated IRC client, Javascript console + debugger etc...
Also I didn't get any compatibility issues with site made for IE but you don't get some kinky effects such as coloured scrollbars.

IE is good.... but Mozilla is better... not by far though.

Quiet Storm
06-24-2002, 06:29 PM
I like IE6,

Opera comes in at a close second,

Netscape will never touch my computer... :eek:

QuackHead
06-24-2002, 06:42 PM
Opera scares me ...

both the browser, and the music ;)

~Quack

Roy Sinclair
06-24-2002, 09:46 PM
I've used IE as my main browser ever since I started working with javascript and realized just how pathetic Netscape 4 was when compared to IE 4. That browser is a complete anthill of bugs, incomplete implementations and other traps for the unwary.
If some effort had been made to fix anything other than the security problems I might like that browser better but the reality is that it was released in a beta form simply to have their new browser available before MS's IE 4 was released and then because they lost their focus and did a lot of fits and starts before starting the Mozilla project Netscape 4 fell further and further behind. To compound their error, they released Netscape 6 based on a beta browser as well.

I use Mozilla as my secondary browser and it's quite possible that it will become my main browser after it get another release or so under it's belt. It's still behind IE in some scripting capabilties but it's head and shoulders ahead of IE in others (standards support especially :thumbsup: ) all it needs is a little more time to work out a few more of the rough edges.

I refuse to even consider loading a "Netscape" branded version of the Mozilla browser on my system though, it adds nothing to the browser experience and adds a lot of useless links and clutter. I prefer the lean, mean browsing you get with the basic Mozilla browser.

Kang He
06-24-2002, 10:20 PM
I mostly use IE5.01, at times I like K-Meleon..

What's Amaya?

jkd
06-24-2002, 11:15 PM
Amaya is W3C's own web browser, that supports among other things, HTML4, XHTML 1.0, XHTML 1.1 (maybe), a good amount of CSS2, SVG, and presentation MathML. It also doubles as WYSIWYG editor.

Worth looking at. :)

bassleader
06-25-2002, 12:10 AM
Looks like it's just me speaking up for Opera then. I like the keyboard shortcuts and the user interface is much more informative, especially opening pages. I find it very strict when it comes to standards, so if my code works in Opera, it'll work in most other places too.

Downsides are that there's so much bad code on the web that sooner rather than later you'll run into a site it doesn't like (forms are particularly bad for this), and on some sites it'll crash altogether. When I have to go to such a site I use IE.

I have a theory about IE's forgiving nature when it comes to coding, by the way. Basically, Microsoft wants everybody to use FrontPage to do their web design, which as we all know produces godawful code. If IE didn't let bad coding off the hook, then all the sites built with FrontPage would be illegible in Microsoft's own browser. Not that MS seem too bothered about embarassing bug-fests, but still...

For testing I also use NS6.x and, as of this morning, Mozilla1.0. I also dream of the day when consistent implementation of CSS becomes a reality.

BL

jscript_junkie
06-25-2002, 03:59 AM
IE is the best browser I have tried. I tried Netscape once but they also installed RealPlayer and AOL Instant Messenger with it. Then, I noticed the horrible way it looked. Plus, that stupid splash screen before it loads. :mad: Those are annoying. They don't need to remind me of what browser I'm using. IE 6 is my favorite because it's has everything that Netscape doesn't. Netscape didn't look like something I wanted to use. I also hated that stupid thing going back and forth while the page loads. That was really distracting, because I wanted to know how far the page has loaded so far. After that, I formatted my drive and never looked at it again. I haven't tried Mozilla or any of those "young" browsers. Maybe they're worth looking at. I like IE because of the interface and installation. I also love that source code pops up in Notepad and not some stupid window like Netscape. I always had to scroll to the right to view my source (or someone else's). If any browser is similar to IE in the above ways mentioned, I'd happy to try it. Accidents like Netscape aren't touching my hard drive again! :D

brothercake
06-26-2002, 08:54 PM
Originally posted by bassleader
I find it very strict when it comes to standards, so if my code works in Opera, it'll work in most other places too.


That's true as far as CSS is concerned ... well true-ish ... but not for scripting. Opera has bastardised support for most of W3C css, some W3C javascript/ecmascript, and a spattering of support for some of the proprietary methods of ie5. Its lack of support for any kind of dynamic element creation of modification is what holds it back from being a serious contender, I think.

Personally, I do like Opera; it is very fast and has a good interface, but it'll never be a favourite until they sort out its parsing.

As for browsers in general ... they all have things I like and things I hate. Even Netscape 3 is still cool in my book ... it has an old skool quality I really like.

But you know ... IE is the one. It has bugs, sure, but not the foundational rendering issues that all the mozilla browsers from 4 onwards have suffered from, and continue to.

oracleguy
06-26-2002, 09:32 PM
Originally posted by mouse
I like MSN Explorer too but for it's limited functionality for those of us not just casually browsing.


MSN Explorer.... :rolleyes: it is almost as bad as netscape.

I used to use Opera but I got annoyed at it's lack of effort when it came to parsing poorly written HTML. Which of course caused huge poblems when browsing. I did like tho, that it had one window and a toolbar in itself to select the browser window. I haven't used Version 6 yet tho....

Thats one of the reasons I'm pumped about ASP .NET because of it's strictness when it comes to things like closing tags and in the right order.

I use IE6 like all the time on my computer and IE 5 on my notebook.

redhead
06-26-2002, 09:54 PM
Hmmm..... I mainly use IE6, though for testing purposes i can be found using Mozilla or netscape, though really small thing that really bugs me is the way both those two have strange boxes instead of lines for <hr>'s...
I cant stand netscape... but maybe thats just (a) me... but hey, hopefully one day IE will have the monopoly.
As for MSN Explorer... it is developed by MicroSoft... same poeple who made IE, get my drift?...

Thejavaman1
06-26-2002, 10:38 PM
Mozilla or Opera

jkd
06-27-2002, 12:33 AM
Just realized I haven't voiced my preferences for browsers in this thread. :D

I'm currently using Mozilla 1.1 Alpha with native SVG. Nothing but either. I haven't used IE for any real web surfing since 0.92 builds I believe, and have had Mozilla installations long before that. :)

I also use (and enjoy) Opera 6 to an extent. It supports the CSS2 selectors I love to use and IE doesn't support, so to begin with I always check my pages in Mozilla then Opera 6 to make sure my XHTML is fine, and the CSS is correct. There are usually only 1px differences at most, if even at all. Then I hack my CSS to pieces when I'm forced to code it for IE. :(
And also have to remove attribute selectors and replace them with classes, as well as replace the direct-descendant selector ">" with the all descendants selector " ", which is so inefficient that Mozilla skins are practically forbidden from using them.

But Opera 6 is pretty nice, and if Opera 7 supports a reasonable amount of dynamic addition/removal from the page structure with DOM1 and DOM2, I may start promoting Opera as a serious alternative to Mozilla. (IE imho is not an alternative, at least until it even supports XML namespaces! Something even Amaya supports! And its stupid HTML namespace thing does not count :D).

mouse
06-27-2002, 12:39 AM
I'm rather [Sorry,Better choice-boxer_1->]*mad* [<- is that allowed?] at the fact sites of ill-repute can add themselves to my favourites and set themselves as my homepage in a version of IE6 with all updates :mad: The great thing about Opera - back in th old days anyhoo - was that dynamic element creation didn't work; no flashing balloney or mouse trails :D nor did sillyness such as button disabling and no right click, these are things I really wish MS outlawed in their browser.

boxer_1
06-27-2002, 01:08 AM
Some interesting / informative input here ;). I've never tried K-Meleon, but I think I'll give it a whirl. I'm surprised that out of 49 votes no one gave NS 6 a single vote yet.

jkd, you're basically our resident browser expert, what noteable changes are the between Mozilla 1.1 Alpha and Mozilla 1.0...worth upgrading?

I didn't include MSN Explorer as a choice because it's essentially a skin for whatever version of IE you're running. You'd be surprised though at the number of MSN customers who signed-up through MSN Explorer that don't even realize what IE is...lol. Techs would have to instruct them to click on the big blue 'E' if they were to test their hotmail through Internet Explorer. Brainwashed and taken advantage of because Microsoft could control their subscribers better if they were forced to use MSN Explorer. When I monitored calls, techs weren't even allowed to build a simple dialer so the subscriber could connect and surf with IE when they were having trouble with MSN Explorer (with a few exceptions). ;).

jkd
06-27-2002, 05:44 AM
Originally posted by boxer_1
jkd, you're basically our resident browser expert, what noteable changes are the between Mozilla 1.1 Alpha and Mozilla 1.0...worth upgrading?

I've become the resident biased browser expert too. :D

I'll tell you that it is usually always a good idea to upgrade Mozilla. ;)

But seriously, I've noticed one major difference between Moz 1.0 and 1.1 so far.

1. For some reason, the final, stable release of Mozilla 1.0 had crashed on me more often than all other installations of Moz combined, including unstable nightlies (so like 9, 10 or so times :D).
Of course, I was dealing heavily with XBL at the time, and from experience bad XBL can at least make the browser unstable at times.

If you were to get a nightly, you'd find the scroll event fixed.

Apparently window.onscroll and element.onscroll didn't fire for a while, then there was discussion on whether the event should bubble (W3C specs say it should, it doesn't in IE, nor does it make sense to. If I scrolled a DIV, why should the scroll event on the window fire?)

And finally it was recently implemented. :)


The only other major difference was the fact I made a point to grab the SVG-enabled build (which is available for most other Windows builds anyway), so I could rewrite my SVG grapher (supports f(x), polar equations, and conics). :)
I'm currently rewriting the interface in XUL and making it "My Sidebar"-sized ;).

If you want to see some amazing stuff, grab this (http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla1.1a/mozilla-win32-svg-mathml-1.1a.zip) and find me on MSN Messenger or AIM. :D

jscript_junkie
06-27-2002, 07:20 AM
Hello fellow forum friends (try saying that one! :D )

Anyway, I've just downloaded Mozilla 1.0. i think it's a good browser, based on the preferences you can set. At first, I was :mad: because it looked just like Netscape! Then, i saw that you could change the skin. What a relief! :) I just hate the way Netscape looks. I really like the Cookie and Image options on how you can block them. That's really cool. And, you can specify what sections you want to enable JavaScript for! Example: If you don't like the status bar changes, you can turn them off! I think that's very creative. Although, I still like IE6 better, Mozilla has earned a place on my hard drive. I'm probably just going to use it to see how sites look on it. Maybe some surfing every now and then, but most of my surfing will be on IE. I'll never get rid of my IE 6! :D

EDIT: Forgot to say that the only things I don't like so far is the loading time and the splash screen. I'm still doing this post in IE 6, though. I'm just too attached to this browser! :D

allida77
06-27-2002, 02:13 PM
JKD

When do you not have to code for ie? Intranet? Why would you not code for the browser that 90% of people use? It seems that would be making it harder than it should be.

firepages
06-27-2002, 03:27 PM
My 2pence

I like IE (6 & 5.5 at the moment depending on boot) & I like it because it works and because it is fast (on windows).

I too like opera very much and often 'speed-browse' with it & I love the way you can save multiple windows, tres cool, and is the only serious contender to IE for me.

Amaya prooves that standards compliance means nothing.

I always have one or other mozilla at hand but I only ever use it for testing if at all, development has taken far too long, is still not finished, often uninstallable and basically needs more than some little used bells and whistles to make it worth the hassle (though I quite like the look of it myself (I am a shallow kinda guy :))

K-meleon was/is good - mozilla but serving pages up the same day although I have not updated for a while!


as for others... I get a whopping 88% MSIE (includes 2 & 3 !!(whats wrong with these people)) in my logs & it would be fair to say that the majority of my visitors are not total web noobs who have never heard of mozilla.

Sadly I still get lynx & V1 browsers popping up from time to time - I wonder what if anything they can see on my site :)

brothercake
06-27-2002, 05:47 PM
I test in Lynx all the time, not so much because people use it, but because it gives you a very good idea of what a search robot sees

ACJavascript
06-27-2002, 06:21 PM
I feel that IE5+,NS4+ are the better browsers out there.

I though give my vote to IE, NS is way to stupid, it always freezes on me and the DHTML capabilities on it stink.

NS always takes a really long time to loadup also.

IE though takes seconds and is great when testing scripts.


Thats my 2cence :thumbsup:

jkd
06-27-2002, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by allida77
JKD

When do you not have to code for ie? Intranet? Why would you not code for the browser that 90% of people use? It seems that would be making it harder than it should be.

It is actually much easier to solely code for Mozilla than it is to solely code for IE.

Advantages to coding to only one browser is that you can optimize it, but advantages to solely coding to Mozilla are that you can do more stuff in less code. And its more enjoyable, because you can start using the "fun" stuff in CSS2 and DOM2. And, if another browser becomes remotely as standards compliant, it should work in that browser too, which means you really aren't coding solely for Mozilla anymore.

I solely code for Mozilla whenever I am doing a personal project. I can't resist - the stuff I'm doing in my free time blows away many things you could ever find on the Internet using just Javascript to control it. I mean, I've almost finished a Sidebar (it goes right into that thing on your left) which graphs functions (f(x)=, y=), polar equations (r=), and conics (circles, ellipses, hyperbolas, and parabolas) using SVG's <path/> and <ellipse/>, Javascript to dynamically set the path data, MathML to demonstrate equations, and XUL for the interface! IE doesn't even support XML namespaces, which means anything like this in XML is IMPOSSIBLE to do in IE.

One could argue using proprietary VML, embedding MathML through an <object> tag using the MathPlayer plugin to view it, and using Javascript to animate it, you could do this in HTML. But, to achive a similar GUI you'd have to result to ActiveX controls, and right there is 4 reasons why its not worth it. VML support would have to be downloaded in some cases, (or the Adobe SVG Viewer if you wanted to go the SVG route), the MathPlayer plugin would have to be downloaded, numerous ActiveX warnings would pop up (or even be discarded if ActiveX is disabled), and then, after all that, it suddenly becomes way too much of mess to change your code later on.

And when SVG and MathML are incorporated into browsers later (they are W3C standards btw), which one would have to changed less? The only thing I'd have to change in my Sidebar would be the XUL interface (write it in XHTML 1.1 instead, just as easy, though less amazing). I could even write an XSLT document to change it for me. I'd have to entirely rewrite the IE implementation.

Anyway, enough of explaining why I solely code for Mozilla at times. :D

Firepages, I can't disagree more with your statement:


Amaya prooves that standards compliance means nothing.


Don't take Amaya as the ideal standards-compliant browser - as it isn't nearly as compliant as Mozilla in many respects. It is more meant for use as a standards-compliant WYSIWYG editor imho. I know Alex Vincent routinely uses it to generate his XHTML pages.

Standards-compliance means EVERYTHING for future browsers, and should mean a lot to you, the web developer - unless of course you like writing the same code over again with slight (major) permutations for each browser.

Microsoft themselves contribute to the W3C committees - they push their own standards, and they accept others. But it seems they only incorporate them when its convenient for themselves, and not the web developer.

brothercake
06-28-2002, 10:13 AM
I just think it's important to remember context. Jason's approach is exciting and "cutting-edge", and that's cool, but it would be laughable for a corporate webmaster to take that attitude. Personally, my priority is scaleability - I want things to work in as many different browsers/oss as possible; so for me standards are irrelevant, I just do what I have to do to make it work.

What you make, and how, is a factor of context, so no approach is valid or invalid by default, only in terms of suitability.

jscript_junkie
06-28-2002, 10:28 AM
Hey brothercake. That's my way of building pages too. I think someone can have their chromeless windows, and version 6 only scripts, but they should provide an alternative. Go to my webpage with script disabled. The address is http://sub5.cjb.net or you can click on the WWW button above :) I'm going to put links there so that browsers that don't support JavaScript can still view my pages. This is only the 3rd time to use this signature, but I want to change it to something else. You'll see it on my next post... *rubbing hands together* :D It will say something about this topic.

EDIT: Oh wow. I didn't know when you updated your signature, it changes all of your posts. Well, I guess you can see it now, then :rolleyes: :D

firepages
06-28-2002, 10:56 AM
Amaya prooves that standards compliance means nothing.

sorry - :) there should have been a smiley there - I meant it `tounge in cheek` so to speak.


JKD - as you know there are yaks load of cool proprietry features in IE as well (& a lot of kak ones) but they are best avoided also, I have seen & appreciated your skills & would hate to think of all that work going into projects that few are ever likely to see, unless that is Mozilla/NS6 can kickstart themselves onto the desktops of the many as opposed to the current situation.

jkd
06-28-2002, 01:45 PM
Originally posted by firepages
I have seen & appreciated your skills & would hate to think of all that work going into projects that few are ever likely to see

Maybe that will be a reason so switch over to Gecko then? :D ;)

QuackHead
06-28-2002, 03:50 PM
whoa... 3 pages!! People, let this thread die! ;)

Yes, I know this post is contradicting itself

~Quack

boxer_1
06-28-2002, 05:03 PM
<script language="VBscript">
If post==onTopic Then
Reply=submitIt
Else
post=0
MsgBox "Don't Submit"
End If
</script> ...:D ( j/k, I know...full of errors...lol)

Anyway, I upgraded to Mozilla 1.1a last night, still checking things out, but so far I don't reget it...nice ;). The only thing I don't care for is the delay while the splash screen is displayed, aside from that, seems quite fast and I like the fact that the developer resouces are so easily accessable. So far so good...might grad K-Meleon later on just to give it a look see :thumbsup: .

jkd
06-28-2002, 05:15 PM
There is a pref setting somewhere to disable the splash screen, but on my Duron 1ghz w/ 256mb of DDR RAM it is only there for a second or two, so no biggie. :)

BTW, grab some skins. :)
The Modern skin is nice, but gets boring after I while - I recommend "Orbit 3+", it's a very nice and friendly skin.

jscript_junkie
06-29-2002, 03:34 AM
Hey all. I just got an Internet Explorer skin for Mozilla 1.1a. This is great! :D I get the look of Internet Explorer. Now I can say that Mozilla is one of my favorites. I'll probably use one for a week then switch to the other one. One thing I love about IE is that it's background color and menu colors match your windows settings. That's really cool. Mozilla is pretty much around IE's status right now. The only think I find disturbing is Mozilla's default form elements, like this text area. The borders around Submit buttons are too big, too. Oh well. Doesn't make that much of a difference. :D

Phip
06-30-2002, 10:34 PM
mozilla 1 kicks booty. now, if it woud just stay minimized.... :rolleyes:

mouse
06-30-2002, 10:54 PM
I found a "This page is Lynx compliant" style icon earlier tonight :confused::D

boxer_1
07-01-2002, 11:33 PM
Originally posted by jkd
.....BTW, grab some skins. :)
The Modern skin is nice, but gets boring after I while - I recommend "Orbit 3+", it's a very nice and friendly skin.

I tried a bunch of different Mozilla themes, including Orbit. I've attached what Moz looks like with the 'Wood' theme just so anyone could have a look if interested.

jkd, do you run the 'Mozilla Quality Assurance SmokeTests' very often if ever? I tried a few and everything was go ;).

PS: Anyone who hasn't voted, get yours in if you like, the more votes the more accurate picture we can get on your browser usage :).

jkd
07-02-2002, 01:04 AM
I haven't run smoke tests in a while.

I recently reinstalled SuSE 8.0, so until later tonight I'm gonna have to live with using Konqueror. :D

It really isn't too bad, rendering feels choppy, but displays mosts sites fine. Though it is a little sluggish with :hover, which though sounds minor, gets very annoying. ;)

Also, if you feel like downloading a crazy skin, get SkyPilot. :D
Absolutely something I can't use for an extended amount of time, but the browser throbber is so cool! :)

3rd-hand
07-04-2002, 01:05 AM
Mozilla all the way! :cool:

boxer_1
07-04-2002, 02:07 AM
Originally posted by jkd
.....Also, if you feel like downloading a crazy skin, get SkyPilot. :D
Absolutely something I can't use for an extended amount of time, but the browser throbber is so cool! :)

I grabbed SkyPilot (installed it on Mozilla 1.1a) last night...I like the theme better than any of the others I've tried to date ;). Being able to choose between so many different themes / skins helps break things up a bit :).

I see we're up to "9" votes for Mozilla now (you'd think jkd and I were reps for Mozilla :D). But seriously it is a nice browser and since if you're reading this, you're likely a developer, getting Mozilla is definitely worth considering since it is very developer oriented.

*5 star rating for this thread / poll*...:thumbsup: !

nolvorite
07-07-2007, 03:26 PM
Mozilla Firefox and Seamonkey. I use IE to check out my site bugs, whereas in those other two browsers I check out the main preview.

_Aerospace_Eng_
07-07-2007, 06:12 PM
Please check the dates of the threads before you post. This one is nearly 5 years old.



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