View Full Version : Linux is elitist and suppressive

08-09-2012, 02:41 AM
Information is power, but for who?
Linux is the thing. It is the technology. Information, communicatiion, processing....

But for who?
I have self-taught programming for 20 years. Information was availaible to help me learn and use the technology.

Now 2012. You cannot get information at beginner level.

You can pay $1000 per fay for each compartmented lesson. To be able to be a real person with info and control you would have to spend at least $20,000 and be very smart and pay attention because there are no repeats.

Used to be the Catholic church owned the information. To read a book or learn anything required permission from the church.

With Linux, we are moving backwards, into that ideology.......

08-09-2012, 03:12 AM
funny I just saw a copy of this post on the Ubuntu forums........ are you spamming this on any and every forum you can find?

08-09-2012, 02:54 PM
Call it spam, whatever. This is very serious. The future of our society is being decided by LINUX. How people will be able to use the technology that rules our lives or be second class citizens with no right to information.

08-09-2012, 04:56 PM
two hundred years ago one had to go to the church and ask for information. The church controlled what info was given.

Now it is called "online help" begging for information with no control over what info may or may not be given.

Case in point. I know very little about perl. I had an example visitors form which was extremely simple, anyone with the most basic knowlege should have been able to help.

Instead, it was decided that people can't make their own visitors form, you are forced to subscribe to those "services" ruining your ad-free environment, losing your visitors, allowing stangers to read and censor my private messages.

I solved the problem myself, posted the answer here.

Can you find that information here? No.

08-09-2012, 05:33 PM
If there's anything to be concerned about, it's the fact that google has all the information in one place.

Seriously, you can't find any beginner linux books? Have you gone to a book store? Do you know about Amazon.com? Even better, take an intro class at a tech college. Finally, there's this place called a "library".

Your rant is completely baseless and void of any substantive facts. It sounds like a rant I see from Apple / Microsoft fan boys. Linux is more difficult to understand, but the support and resources online FAR outstrip anything comparative for Apple or Windows problems.

08-12-2012, 04:41 AM
I have texshare, and have library cards in threee cities. Love the bookstore, fry's, online research. I am extremely self-taught. My dependency on self-research is exactly what brought me here discusssing this....

All I have to do is take courses?
$1000 per day, most lessons threee days. At least 25 lessons required for me to get intellectual freedoms and opportunities and control over my creative endeavers, and participate equally in the world i live in, as i used to be able to do.

Unix and their systems will run everything fer the next 100 years; communication, manufacturing, computing, invention, safety, comfort , opportunity.

Those who can afford to learn UNIX will have a profound advantage.
Those of us outside the umbrella will be second class citizens.


We've taken care of everything The words you hear, the songs you sing The pictures that give pleasure to your eyes
It's one for all and all for one We work together, common sons Never need to wonder how or why
We are the priests of the temples of Syrinx Our great computers fill the hallowed halls We are the priests of the temples of Syrinx All the gifts of life are held within our walls
Look around at this world we've made Equality our stock in trade Come and join the brotherhood of man
Oh what a nice, contented world Let the banners be unfurled Hold the red star proudly high in hand
We are the priests of the temples of Syrinx Our great computers fill the hallowed halls We are the priests of the temples of Syrinx All the gifts of life are held within our walls

08-12-2012, 05:20 AM
BTW The prophetic lyrics are from 2112, a hundred years into the direction we are heading.

08-12-2012, 06:08 AM
Commodore 64 programmers guide. Visual basic6 unleashed. Each book gave me complete control over computing at the time.

I am tempted to show failings of Unix tutorials and books, but fear I am boring readers. Writing an animated logo graphics program required dozens of pieces of code per day, with trial and error, and debugging, rewriting. It took months to write..

The same thing is not posssible with on-line help. Having to ask thousands of questions, not knowing which questions to ask, waiting a day or more on each answer, if i got all correct answers...

When it comes to astronomy, physics, space science, there are no limits. I can freely see data that all the top scientists see.

I would recommend any interested to research new observational data that is rewriting everything we thought we knew about the universe. Cern, Integra,Swift, Hubble, Chandra High-tech sattelites. See Nasa picture of the day archive, wiki.

Apologize for multiple posts, havings problems editing.

08-19-2012, 01:57 AM
UNIX book review:

I assumed the book would as the name implied be the answer to questions I might have when I got stuck every now and then, but it is just a glossary of terms with many useful subjects totally missing. In my opinion printing this book is an insult to peoples' intelligence and an insult to the trees used to make the paper it was printed on.

08-19-2012, 10:23 PM
I've never bought a book on Linux! But I'm using it, I write codes and scripts and make web pages and all sorts of wonderful things. Right now I'm writing a website ( yes one writes programs, one no longer programs ) where people can upload their photos and do all kinds of things with them, resize and crop, put all and any kind of text in all colors, sizes and fonts on them, use them to make posters, etc..

And guess what, I learned how to do all these great things on this new invention called the Internet. And you can too.