Using notepad for...?

[barnettgs]

I have seen and told many times that you would be much better off with notepad than any WYSIWYG editors.

I'm still using Dreamweaver and I cannot see myself switching over to notepad or any other text editor but I have been thinking about it earlier.

The reason is due to that I'm considering switching over to <DIV> layout rather than tables and that was due to Dreamweaver's crap CSS tool as well as its layout tool.

But I found it a bit hard to switch over since I'm using template feature including editable region in Dreamweaver. I found it to be useful and new page can be opened with layout in place.

I doubt that notepad would do that same job in same amount of time.

Also I'm curious that if you want to change the page layout and you will have to change them all one by one each?
With Dreamweaver, I only need to open template page and changed it then update all other pages automatically without opening them.

[MotherNatrsSon]

I have Dreamweaver MX and BBEdit. BBEdit is Notepad sort of but on a MAC. I use BBEdit o format, and validate code because it has a built in validator. Also any, .js .pl .pm or text files like css style sheets I use BBEdit to write although I have only writen a few practice ones at this point.

Dreamweaver's css leaves much to be desired for sure, but it can be used to create a layout for css, just do not believe the WYSIWYG part of it. The internal browser makes a mess of the CSS.

Basically, when you get a stylesheet for your site, you will no longer need the template, and all you will have to edit to change all your pages is your stylesheet theoretically.

MNS

[Vladdy]

HTML is content which you can type in using any Notepad-like text editor - syntax highlighting and other advanced features certainly help.
Layout (or presentation) is defined using CSS file which is linked to your HTML pages. You can easily change the layout of your whole site by editing your single stylesheet.

[barnettgs]

It sounds simple to me, but i guess i have to learn a lot with css layout and i found www.w3.org a bit boring as i'm looking for something where i like to get my hands dirty with some simple site showing their example of css where i can copy and paste and play with it as I learn.

Is there any css tools that will make things a bit easier? Also for notepad, do you recommended any other notepad-like programs?

[Nightfire]

http://www.scintilla.org Many people use this

[Vladdy]

Originally posted by barnettgs
It sounds simple to me, but i guess i have to learn a lot with css layout and i found www.w3.org a bit boring ...

Specifications are rarely "entertaining" and learning is a game only in the kindergarden :rolleyes:

[meow]

Are you sure HTML is content? Here I thought it was markup, possibly providing structure.

Oh, that bandwagon sure rolls fast! :p

Also see:
http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0703a.shtml#yelling

[MotherNatrsSon]

Originally posted by barnettgs
It sounds simple to me, but i guess i have to learn a lot with css layout and i found www.w3.org a bit boring as i'm looking for something where i like to get my hands dirty with some simple site showing their example of css where i can copy and paste and play with it as I learn.

Is there any css tools that will make things a bit easier? Also for notepad, do you recommended any other notepad-like programs?

I think I understand what you mean. Reading specs is all good and fine but learning by doing is my favorite method as well. Check out these sites:

http://www.glish.com/css/
http://www.webreference.com/authoring/style/sheets/layout/advanced/
http://www.brainjar.com/css/positioning/default.asp
http://www.mezzoblue.com/zengarden/resources/
http://www.thenoodleincident.com/
http://www.w3schools.com/css/css_examples.asp

Hope those help.

MNS

[Vladdy]

Originally posted by meow
Are you sure HTML is content? Here I thought it was markup, possibly providing structure.

Oh, that bandwagon sure rolls fast! :p

Also see:
http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0703a.shtml#yelling
Structure can be considered part of the content.
I'm neither yelling nor persuading - just answering the question, you on the other hand are trolling. :rolleyes:

[oracleguy]

Also what isn't covered by CSS you can acompish by using server side includes. This like menu contents and such can be included in server side includes, so if you want add/change/remove an item, you can change one file, and it is changed all the pages that reference the include.

My two favorite text editors are HomeSite and HTML-Kit.

[Caffeine]

I also love HomeSite, I have used it since version 1.12 :cool:

But the 'good ol HomeSite' is no more, Macromedia bought it and chose to migrate it into dreamweaver... baad move!
Dreamweaver is using soo much memory while the old HS was much lighter, and faster.

[barnettgs]

I have found TopStyle Pro trial from www.bradsoft.com last night and it's fab and flawless to use! :D

It's only HTML Editor / CSS Editor / XHTML Editor which is just exactly what I wanted.

BTW, MotherNatrsSon, thanks for the links! :thumbsup: