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I don't seem to be able to Delete posts anymore

raf
08-21-2003, 10:34 PM
I frequently accidently post something (overusing the <tab> button, not rereading carefully enough etc).

I used to be able to delete these posts, but i now get this 'you are not allowed to etc' page. Did i got punished for something or is noone able to delete his own posts anymore ? And why ?

Anyone knows ?

oracleguy
08-21-2003, 11:03 PM
Yeah your being punished. :)

Actually George changed it so you can't delete threads or posts anymore. There was some guy that posted a few times and started some threads and then later went through and deleted them. I forget which mod noticed it and mentioned it in the ultra-secret moderator forum. I'm not sure exactly what happened, all I know is the permissions were changed like a week ago.

scroots
08-21-2003, 11:06 PM
raf can you not just edit your posts instead.

scroots

Jason
08-21-2003, 11:11 PM
I would have to say it was spookster who noticed it and I would also say that it was somebody named AudioWebs who went through and deleted all of his posts. It was on the thread I started "Sueing music sharers" or whatever I titled it and he went through and tried to act like he knew what he was talking about. After he got proved wrong many times he disapeared.....again, these are assumptions....


Jason

whackaxe
08-21-2003, 11:15 PM
could we have a field day in the afore mentioned moderator forum?:D (view only of course)

oracleguy
08-21-2003, 11:21 PM
Originally posted by Jason
AudioWebs

That's the guy.

Spookster
08-21-2003, 11:43 PM
Originally posted by Jason
I would have to say it was spookster who noticed it and I would also say that it was somebody named AudioWebs who went through and deleted all of his posts. It was on the thread I started "Sueing music sharers" or whatever I titled it and he went through and tried to act like he knew what he was talking about. After he got proved wrong many times he disapeared.....again, these are assumptions....


Jason

Pretty good assumption. :)

Actually though I hadn't brought it up due to that particular event. I have been noticing other useful threads disappearing becuase some members would get the answers they were looking for then delete their thread. If people need a thread removed now they can contact the moderator for that particular forum or one of the super mods or WA if they can't find anybody else.

brothercake
08-22-2003, 01:02 AM
Originally posted by oracleguy
the ultra-secret moderator forum
Not so secret now, eh ;)

Spookster
08-22-2003, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by oracleguy
the ultra-secret moderator forum.

I can't believe you mentioned THAT. :eek:

You obviously did not read the ultra-secret moderator forum handbook. Tsk tsk tsk...

oracleguy, you are the weakest link. Good bye!

whackaxe
08-22-2003, 01:11 AM
looks like that thread about becoming a mod might be andy after all.... :D

WA
08-22-2003, 01:14 AM
Hi:
As mentioned, I've temporarily disabled members' ability to delete a thread (that he/she started) or posts. I can see how this can become a negative thing, however, when members accidently post something "useless" or redundant and can get rid of it without relying on a mod, so I'm open to feedback on this issue.

The options are:

1) Allow deleting of a member's own thread and posts (past setup)
2) Disable deleting of an entire thread, but allow deleting of individual posts by a member.
2) Disable both in 2) (current set up).

Spookster
08-22-2003, 01:42 AM
Originally posted by WA



1) Allow deleting of a member's own thread and posts (past setup)
2) Disable deleting of an entire thread, but allow deleting of individual posts by a member.
2) Disable both in 2) (current set up).

In my opinion I would not allow members to delete their threads or posts.

The thread can contain useful and in-depth posts by other members that those members might use later on and go back to from time to time to remember what they said or to copy and paste parts of what they typed in another related thread.

Allowing members to delete their own posts could make for some awkward sounding threads if posts come up missing and then people only see parts of a conversation. Like maybe somebody posted a long and in-depth answer but then the person who asked the question deletes their post. Then we have an answer but no longer know what the question was.

I can understand making a post or thread and making a mistake and wanting to delete it themselves. I think however it is not too much trouble to just notify a mod or admin to delete something for them.

oracleguy
08-22-2003, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by Spookster
I can't believe you mentioned THAT. :eek:

You obviously did not read the ultra-secret moderator forum handbook. Tsk tsk tsk...


Actually, according to chapter 19, section 4, paragraph 27, "If a moderator ever allows the existance of the moderator forum, you must deny the existance of the afore mentioned forum."
:D

Spookster
08-22-2003, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by oracleguy
Actually, according to chapter 19, section 4, paragraph 27, "If a moderator ever allows the existance of the moderator forum, you must deny the existance of the afore mentioned forum."
:D

What moderator forum? :confused:

brothercake
08-22-2003, 03:05 AM
But post deletion is sessional isn't it - as long as your session hasn't timed out you can delete a post you just made, can't you?

raf
08-22-2003, 07:56 AM
Originally posted by brothercake
But post deletion is sessional isn't it - as long as your session hasn't timed out you can delete a post you just made, can't you?
Nope. If you immedeately try to delete it after posting, it sends you to the 'you don't have permission etc ...'

I understand why deleting posts got disabled for non-mods (i even commented to WA in an earlier thread that this should be done if other people had already replyed to it)

About a sollution:
Is it possible to allow deleting of posts that:
- are created by yourself;
- are the last post of that thread.

I now edit them but that looks silly.
http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25134&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

Not a big problem anyway:)

bcarl314
08-22-2003, 12:53 PM
Well, I for one think post deletion should remain an option of the user. After all, if I really wanted to, I can still go back and edit my post and remove all the content and just have a blank post, which would waste time for visitors and add unnecessary junk to the db.

Deleting the entire thread on the other hand should be a mod privledge, unless there is only one post in the thread, your own.

A random thought that occured to me: Is there some way to restrict deletion access by member level? Also, what happens to your post count when you delete a post? It should be decremented.

oracleguy
08-22-2003, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by bcarl314
A random thought that occured to me: Is there some way to restrict deletion access by member level? Also, what happens to your post count when you delete a post? It should be decremented.

It is.

ionsurge
08-22-2003, 06:25 PM
Yup it does.

/me uses my moderator powers... muahahaha!

bcarl314
08-22-2003, 06:29 PM
Well, why not allow addict and nuts to delete posts. Surely the more seasoned visitors know when they can delete their own post???

Or are we all just lowly peons that must bow to the all mighty mods! :D

Spookster
08-22-2003, 06:43 PM
Originally posted by bcarl314
Or are we all just lowly peons that must bow to the all mighty mods! :D

All hail Spookster!!!

jkd
08-22-2003, 07:38 PM
*ahem* supermoderator here... Spookster is the false idol. I am the one to be worshipped.

bradyj
08-22-2003, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by jkd
*ahem* supermoderator here... Spookster is the false idol. I am the one to be worshipped.

Do you take 'Confession'? I'm overdue, I think.;)

jkd
08-22-2003, 09:27 PM
Originally posted by bradyj
Do you take 'Confession'? I'm overdue, I think.;)

Nope. People have to deal with their own sins. I just work behind the scenes to keep everything going smoothly. :)

IdentityCrisis
08-25-2003, 07:20 PM
Originally posted by WA
The options are:

1) Allow deleting of a member's own thread and posts (past setup)
2) Disable deleting of an entire thread, but allow deleting of individual posts by a member.
2) Disable both in 2) (current set up).

Why can't George count? :D

IdentityCrisis
08-25-2003, 07:21 PM
I think members should be allowed to delete their posts/threads up to a certain time-limit... like say, 2 hours... after that, all they can do is edit.

scroots
08-25-2003, 07:25 PM
bills binary machine gave the wrong answer and then broke after an illegal operation.

only joking

probably a typo.

scroots

Morgoth
08-28-2003, 04:18 AM
Hum...
Why not allow people to delete posts and theards but keep a field in the database called "DeleteDate" and allow only one deletion per 48 hours? It will stop what ever AudioWebs was doing, and it wont stop deletions of legit posts that need to be deleted.

It would be a bit of extra work to set up, but it's not a lot of extra work.

oracleguy
08-28-2003, 04:48 AM
Some of the ideas discussed might be implemented with vB3... I dunno, the list of new features is pretty long on their website. It ought to be pretty cool when it comes out and George upgrades.

Morgoth
08-28-2003, 08:18 AM
If he wants to upgrade... It does cost a lot.
http://www.vbulletin.com/order/

George, did you edit any of the code yourself in this forum?

whackaxe
08-28-2003, 12:03 PM
upgrade price is cheaper i assume.

Morgoth
08-28-2003, 07:47 PM
Yes, but it still costs money.
If it were my decision, I would try to find out how much it has changed to figure out if it's worth it.

oracleguy
08-28-2003, 08:31 PM
It is gonna be worth it.

Take a look: http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/showthread.php?threadid=51821



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