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Ben@WEBProp
07-02-2003, 05:20 PM
So I'm using FrontPage to make my pages (and don't worry, only the html editor is used, not the CGI interface). When FrontPage creates a page, it adds these meta's into the head. Would these interfere in any way with the rest of my page? Do I even really need them? What do they even do?

<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">

Thanks for your help

-Ben

MotherNatrsSon
07-02-2003, 05:29 PM
Originally posted by Ben@WEBProp
So I'm using FrontPage to make my pages (and don't worry, only the html editor is used, not the CGI interface). When FrontPage creates a page, it adds these meta's into the head. Would these interfere in any way with the rest of my page? Do I even really need them? What do they even do?

<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us">
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=windows-1252">
<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">

Thanks for your help

-Ben

These you do not need:

<meta name="GENERATOR" content="Microsoft FrontPage 4.0">
<meta name="ProgId" content="FrontPage.Editor.Document">

The others you do need for your page to validate.

MNS

Ben@WEBProp
07-02-2003, 05:40 PM
I thought that the only thing I needed for my pages to validate was the doctype at the top that points to W3C's DTD file. Oh ya, and what the fruit does validate mean? Does it just mean conform to W3C's standards?

MotherNatrsSon
07-02-2003, 05:52 PM
Yes, validate means it conforms to W3C's "standards". You also need the character set for it validate along with the doctype.

This one is "optional": <meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-us"> the character set will tell it thhe language is english.

MNS

theabyss
07-02-2003, 10:06 PM
I don't use meta tags at all. I don't see the use for them. For character encoding, I can set the server to add utf-8 encoding to all .htm files. Then, for the language, I use the xml:lang="en" attribute in my html tag. I only see them as useful for people that don't have that functionality.

The keywords and description tag are useful for people that want to appear in the top 5 in search engines, but I don't use them because top 20 is OK for me. I see those attributes as a way to help rankings, not really required to be there.

I'm ranked number one on Google for my name. If people want to find my website, I put my name in the title of each page. That way people find my page. Meta tags are OK, but I don't really find them useful.

meow
07-02-2003, 10:10 PM
Let me rephrase the question. I'm sure Ben meant "Do I need FrontPage at all?" :D

*ducking* :o

Ben@WEBProp
07-02-2003, 10:33 PM
Oh come on meow...FontPage isn't that bad...

Hahahaha! Good one, eh! I know, I really shouldn't be using Frontpage, but my boss wants me to. When I go off to college, he wants an easy-to-learn basic interface in which other employees can update minor things...such as text and pictures. He's says if a major layout change is due, he will give me a call and see how I much free time I have to do such a thing.

Seriously though, using FrontPage to make a great website is like using Hello Kitty to ward off a pack of bloodthirsty ninja's...it's just not going to happen.

Thanks for the help meow....

meow
07-02-2003, 10:39 PM
I didn't mean anything bad. Just can't help myself. :o

Ben@WEBProp
07-02-2003, 10:48 PM
I know you didn't mean anything bad...but Frontpage is bad and it needs to die...

-Ben

bradyj
07-02-2003, 10:56 PM
In theory, you don't need any metatags -- search engines (Google) no longer use them to archive your site. The DocType will validate, that's all that's really needed. The rest are just help to get the file going.

I, personally, have a ton on all my sites. Check out my companies:
http://www.belairedisplays.com and view the source to see all my Meta Tags.

bradyj
07-02-2003, 10:58 PM
BTW -- I can't see your navigation anymore on your site when I load it. Also, your logo gets squished now.

giz
07-02-2003, 11:17 PM
Google does use the <title> and the meta description in the index.

You do also need the meta Content-Type to specify the character encoding that the page uses.

Ben@WEBProp
07-02-2003, 11:25 PM
Ya, I know...logo error...
Should be fixed now, I was messing with the % values. It looked fine when I previewed it in my browser, but when I published it, it got all goofy...:thumbsup:

Lemme know what you think the prob is, k?

Ben@WEBProp
07-02-2003, 11:41 PM
Anyone who wants to help me out on this problem, feel free!

go to http://www.webpropertiesinc.com and follow the nav bar through commercial>redwood plaza and hit the link at the bottom that says View the Floor plans...the put your mouse over C-1 (at the top). Notice how there is a horizontal scroll bar present? how do I get rid of that?

BradyJ-Are the navbar/banner errors fixed for you yet?

bradyj
07-03-2003, 12:19 AM
Nope, no nav bar yet... I may do a restart here and see if it's on my end.

Ben@WEBProp
07-03-2003, 12:22 AM
Ok, please try to refresh or restart, because I didn't alter the nav bar page...I don't think...
If you restart and still get nothin, lemme know.

Ben@WEBProp
07-03-2003, 12:30 AM
The site is now offline for the night...I will trow it back on the net tomarrow morning, and post a reply to this thread, k?

G'night everyone!

-Ben

Graeme Hackston
07-03-2003, 12:53 PM
Go to this page and look for "No FrontPage Meta"

http://www.jimcoaddins.com/addins.aspx

<warning>
the page barely works in Moz 1.4 but I know the plugin works
</warning>

bradyj
07-03-2003, 04:39 PM
giz would be correcdt, sorry about that. There are a couple that are still needed, but you can live without most metas.

Ben@WEBProp
07-03-2003, 04:52 PM
Ya, I think I will keep my meta's in.

BradyJ-Can you go to my site and see if the nav bar and everything seems to be working on your end today?

Thanks...

Ben