View Full Version : Is server side scripting complicated

05-26-2003, 03:56 AM
Is server side scripting complicated, and should I learn it, or is it not really necessary..

Evaluated time to learn enough server-side scripting to do anything usefull would be?

Wich language should I learn first?

05-26-2003, 06:59 AM
Umm, I started PHP not long ago, and Im getting pretty good at it, although I do come here alot and ask some pretty stupid questions... So, the answer to ur first question would be about a few months. And the answer to your second question, IMO, would be php. And yes, it is worth it to learn server-side... You get way more stuff you can do with it instead of just sticking w/ client-side. :thumbsup:

05-26-2003, 09:53 AM
I would say PHP too.

I first started with Perl, wich I still use a lot for very complicated serverside "aplications". Since half a year I've been using PHP and I found out that it's easier to write (and maybe easier to learn, can't really tell).

Mzzl, Chris

05-26-2003, 07:50 PM
i started doing php and found it quite easy as i could do javascript, some things are similair. The php manual is great, if you are like me and don't know much, you can just look it up quikly and the manual has user notes and examples and is in really easy language.


05-26-2003, 11:27 PM
I heared somewhere that I had to download something to use PHP, is this true?

05-27-2003, 12:45 AM
Yes, it is. First, you need a server... I would use Abyss if I were you. You can download it free at http://www.aprelium.com . Then you will need to install php. If I were you, I would get the latest stable version, which I think is v4.3.1 . You can download this at http://www.php.net

05-27-2003, 01:15 AM
Or if you want everything already set up, go for phpdev at http://www.firepages.com.au It's a good package for learning php on

and like the others, I went for php, was much easier to learn than asp for me

05-27-2003, 02:12 AM
I'll try your "everything already set up" thing Nightfire, thanks :)

Also, am I mistaken or could I make a forum using PHP?

05-27-2003, 02:36 AM
Yes Im pretty surer that this forum is php hence the


so Im sure that php can be used to create a forum!

05-27-2003, 02:43 AM
lol, I guess I hadn't noticed that ;)

05-27-2003, 02:47 AM
ok, once I've downloaded it, what do I do?
Do I have to install something, or can I just start php'ing, or whatever

Also, I've heard I have to have my page hosted so I can test it, is this true?

05-27-2003, 03:50 AM
ok, I downloaded your thing, I installed it. And I don't understand anything. I clicked "get started", and I still don't understand what to do next. Now that I've installed it, can I just go right PHP or do I have to right it in that thing I just installed (whatever it is)?
I'm relly in the dark here..

05-27-2003, 04:14 AM
Yes you do. Download abyss or apache to get it hosted. Then install it, then set up a localhost server.

05-27-2003, 04:31 AM

1. I thought I had downloaded Apache with that bundle
2. How do I get it hosted with Apache?
3. "Then install it", install what?
4. "set up a localhost server" how?
5. Will I have to pay to get it hosted, the only hosting I have done is with angelfire for my html pages... Can I still use that?

05-27-2003, 02:07 PM
1. I thought I had downloaded Apache with that bundle
Yes, apache is included with the bundle

2. How do I get it hosted with Apache?
See above

3. "Then install it", install what?
Probably means apache...

4. "set up a localhost server" how?
Start up phpdev

5. Will I have to pay to get it hosted, the only hosting I have done is with angelfire for my html pages... Can I still use that?

Don't have to pay for hosting if you're using phpdev. BUT you would need a static IP if you are wanting to have your php stuff online 24/7, or something like http://www.no-ip.com if you are on dial-up.

To get to your php stuff, once you've started phpdev, go to http://localhost and that should (if I remember correctly) bring up some pages and these will give you more info on how to use phpdev.

05-27-2003, 07:01 PM
Yes, I did mean install apcahe... or if u get abyss, install that. Sorry if it was confusing!:o

05-28-2003, 05:38 AM
There are many options out there for server side scripting. As people here have posted here, PHP is probably the most popular free serverside scripting option.

Many people like the html tag-like syntax of Coldfusion but it is not a free product. For a free alternative, you can check out RACE at www.racekit.net


05-28-2003, 12:09 PM
you can get develop with cf for free just download the eval from Macromedia, ok its only one user but then again your only developing right.

Or you could use Bluedragon as your cf server which is totally free


05-28-2003, 01:01 PM

maybe it'll make more sense and give you a clearer perspective if you read an intoductionairy paper on starting with PHP and MySQL

Somenthing like
which starts really from scratch (installation, configuring, setting up a db, writing your first PHP code ...)

05-29-2003, 02:25 AM
If you downloaded phpdev & it installed ok , i.e. you got the welcome/test page , then you have everything you need to start writing PHP applications.

to use phpdev , just write a script , then save it to the phpdev/www/ directory and call it as http://localhost/my_script.php


05-29-2003, 02:40 AM
Thanks guys/gals, I'll go check your tutorials later, no time