what's wrong with Mozilla and Opera?

[ASAAKI]

I've got'em both, and they're obviously pretty good for web designing and all that, especially Opera, with its user/author mode. But as far as using them is concerned, for me, they're completely useless. They just don't work.
At first, when I'd newly downloaded Mozilla, i did (rarely) get a certain site that was mostly all text. Then it stopped displaying sites altogether, and then I download opera, and that never worked, not once. I always get something like 'could not connect to remote server'. But the same sites always work on IE.
All I can ever use Moz and Opera for are for testing my own files on the same machine. Why can't they connect to another server? All they ever do is take a few seconds of trying to connect and then give up.
Everything else works on my connection, software updates, ftp transfer and all sorts of stuff.

[bradyj]

Hmmm, that's wacky -- usually I get that type of error if I'm on a slow modem and I have Mozilla opened with IE or vice versa -- the 'pipe' that reads the internet cannot connect.

What type of platform (PC or Mac) are you using?
What internet connection speed and who is your internet provider?

[Roy Sinclair]

Do you have a Firewall running that blocks unknown applications from reaching the web? Did you tell it to let the newcomers reach the web?

[ASAAKI]

brady: i tried closing all other windows and opening each of Mozilla and Opera alone, but they didn't work. my current speed is very, very, very poor - these days i get connected at anywhere between 4.6 - 19.6 Kbps (very frustrating indeed :rolleyes: ), but that's because i'm temporarily using a satellite telephone line. otherwise the connection is what you can normally expect from a 58 modem. but when i'm connected at a normal speed they still never work, no matter what the connection.
i use prepaid cards of 'AwalNet', and sometimes 'Jeel, and sometimes 'SaudiNet', and sometimes even the utterly useless 'Zajoul', and the main isp who owns everything is SaudiOnline I think...but i'm sure you haven't even heard of them;):D

Roy: hmmm...i half-thought of a firewall being the culprit but dumped the idea because in that case why did mozilla work in the beginning? but then, there is a country-wide firewall over here, because of which i can't run kazaa, so that might be the problem... i suppose i should contact the main internet-related authorities?

[scroots]

in opera go file>Preferences and then click network.
Put a tick in the box Synchronous DNS.

scroots

[Jason]

I have a similar problem in my office, everyone in the office uses Mozilla and I use NS7. For me mozilla does similar things in that it doesn't reach everywhere. There was a discussion about Pheonix I believe its called and its supposed to be really good. And if you can use http to get out of the country then Kazaa would work. Just use an HTTP tunnel prog that would disquise all packets incomming and outgoing for Kazza as HTTP packets...so it would work.


Jason

[ASAAKI]

thanks Jason. it's just that i don't know what a HTTP tunnel would be...i'll check it out and see. thanks.

and thank you scroots!
i hadn't even added the proxy address in Networking...:o
mozilla's working now too.
Strange...i remember so well trying to do something about the proxy stuff before...

Anyway, for Mozilla I did Edit> Preferences> Advanced> Proxies, in case anyone who's guilty of being as smart as me ever comes along and sees this thread.

[Jason]

its an addon for Kazza try and look for it in http://www.downloads.com or something and it should have it there...its basically a way Kazaa can by pass firewalls and use the HTTP protocol...


Jason

[ASAAKI]

alrighty. me going to check it out now.:) ... on mozilla:D

[ASAAKI]

oh this is good.:D Opera is actually almost fast!

[ASAAKI]

...or so i thought..:rolleyes:

[whackaxe]

country wide firewall? that sux :p can you use the HTTP tunneling program for any program or is it built for kazaa?

[Jason]

Kazza has a specifc one, Im sure if you search around there are more for other programs...


Jason

[cg9com]

Originally posted by ASAAKI
oh this is good.:D Opera is actually almost fast!
almost? in my experience it has been the fastest, sometimes fell under k-meleon though.
dont worry about opera, thats my theory. :rolleyes:

that and "everybody wang chung tonight". :D