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View Full Version : Everyone Here Who Has A Website Should Block IE6.



Dean440
06-22-2010, 07:03 AM
Steam nearly came out of my ears when I saw that IE6 still represents about 17% of the total browser market. This conjures up feelings of rage for the morons who think AOL is the internet and think their computer "has the internet" and they just click on the blue "e" to get it.

Here is a blog post that shows some really confrontational splash pages for people still using IE6.

http://www.thedonutproject.com/2009/05/22/overly-judgemental-ie6-splash-pages/

People shouldn't develop for IE6 anymore, period. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm actively banning IE6 from my site. I really wish every other website owner on Earth would follow suit so we could ditch this horse crap once and for all.

VIPStephan
06-22-2010, 02:02 PM
Don’t worry, IE 6 will die eventually. In most of the recent (commercial, indeed) projects I was working on IE 6 wasn’t a requirement anymore. Luckily many of the clients are using IE 7 or newer either, so they don’t even care about IE 6, they just want it to look good in whatever browser they are using (unless they are relatively tech savvy). And with more and more sites failing to work properly in IE 6 more and more users of that browser will probably feel forced to do something about it.

Don’t worry, IE 6 will die.

Apostropartheid
06-22-2010, 03:27 PM
No we should not stop someone seeing content because they choose to use a web browser you don't like. If you think so, you have no business developing on the Internet. Not extending support is a different thing entirely, but blocking? No.

And not being entirely aware of other browsers does not make one and idiot, either.

Dean440
06-22-2010, 03:52 PM
No we should not stop someone seeing content because they choose to use a web browser you don't like. If you think so, you have no business developing on the Internet. Not extending support is a different thing entirely, but blocking? No.

And not being entirely aware of other browsers does not make one and idiot, either.

A browser I don't like? A browser that everyone in web development hates. It's established fact that IE6 is trash and has no place in the world. It's not just me not liking something.

And you're right: blocking isn't the way to go. I think violently assaulting their computer with some malicious scripts or executable files would be better.

I don't feel bad for these people: it would take them all of 30 seconds to update to a browser that isn't a piece of insecure junk. It would actually make their lives noticeably better, too. They would have a much safer and much faster browsing experience with all kinds of better features. And God forbid they can enjoy even the convenience (and common sense) of tabbed browsing.

If it's companies who are the problem and are still on IE6, I still don't feel bad. Computers and/or the internet are integral part of just about every business, and if they're too lazy to put in a little bit of time making sure that the company employees have good, secure, standards-compliant, full-featured, modern, robust browsers (which is one of the most important programs on your computer), then to hell with them. I'm sure these companies use plenty of other dinosaur technology and will be left in the dust soon enough.

Seventeen percent? Come on...that's almost 1 in 5 people browsing on the Internet. Give me a break. They've all had years to at least upgrade to a newer version of garbage.

I'm willing to wager that most of the people who still use IE6 are the same people who are intimidated by using a remote control or a VCR.

Apostropartheid
06-22-2010, 04:09 PM
A browser I don't like? A browser that everyone in web development hates. It's established fact that IE6 is trash and has no place in the world. It's not just me not liking something.

Point taken, but web developers are a tiny fraction of the population, still. It is not the web developer's job to choose who may or may not access content. I understand your frustration, and I myself no longer support IE, but it's just wrong to discriminate against people because of their choices.


And you're right: blocking isn't the way to go. I think violently assaulting their computer with some malicious scripts or executable files would be better.

As a person whose parents have suffered identity theft, I do not find this even remotely funny.


I don't feel bad for these people: it would take them all of 30 seconds to update to a browser that isn't a piece of insecure junk. It would actually make their lives noticeably better, too. They would have a much safer and much faster browsing experience with all kinds of better features. And God forbid they can enjoy even the convenience (and common sense) of tabbed browsing.

If it's companies who are the problem and are still on IE6, I still don't feel bad. Computers and/or the internet are integral part of just about every business, and if they're too lazy to put in a little bit of time making sure that the company employees have good, secure, standards-compliant, full-featured, modern, robust browsers (which is one of the most important programs on your computer), then to hell with them. I'm sure these companies use plenty of other dinosaur technology and will be left in the dust soon enough.

Seventeen percent? Come on...that's almost 1 in 5 people browsing on the Internet. Give me a break. They've all had years to at least upgrade to a newer version of garbage.

I'm willing to wager that most of the people who still use IE6 are the same people who are intimidated by using a remote control or a VCR.

My best friend is fluent in two languages and can read texts from two thousand years ago in their source language. She's no idiot. She, granted, doesn't use IE6 anymore (after the last year of complaining that her computer was getting slow I told her to buy a new one.) Internal web development can cost a huge, huge amount of money, more than either of us will earn in our lifetime. It's nothing to be laughed at. And when they have no real incentive to upgrade, I don't think they should.

oracleguy
06-22-2010, 04:27 PM
If it's companies who are the problem and are still on IE6, I still don't feel bad. Computers and/or the internet are integral part of just about every business, and if they're too lazy to put in a little bit of time making sure that the company employees have good, secure, standards-compliant, full-featured, modern, robust browsers (which is one of the most important programs on your computer), then to hell with them. I'm sure these companies use plenty of other dinosaur technology and will be left in the dust soon enough.

Seventeen percent? Come on...that's almost 1 in 5 people browsing on the Internet. Give me a break. They've all had years to at least upgrade to a newer version of garbage.

I'm willing to wager that most of the people who still use IE6 are the same people who are intimidated by using a remote control or a VCR.

For companies that are still using IE6 it usually has less to do with the company but the 3rd party Intranet applications they use. Those kinds of enterprise applications were/are notorious for their poor support of anything but IE. I use Firefox at work but I either have to use the IE tab extension or IE itself occasionally because some of the Intranet apps I have to use don't work well in Firefox. Thankfully they work in IE8 which seems to be a lot better than 6.

IE6 usage will fall quite a bit by the time XP reaches end of life in 2014. It will happen eventually it just takes time.

Fumigator
06-22-2010, 04:46 PM
Steam nearly came out of my ears when I saw that IE6 still represents about 17% of the total browser market. This conjures up feelings of rage for the morons who think AOL is the internet and think their computer "has the internet" and they just click on the blue "e" to get it.

Here is a blog post that shows some really confrontational splash pages for people still using IE6.

http://www.thedonutproject.com/2009/05/22/overly-judgemental-ie6-splash-pages/

People shouldn't develop for IE6 anymore, period. I don't know about anyone else, but I'm actively banning IE6 from my site. I really wish every other website owner on Earth would follow suit so we could ditch this horse crap once and for all.

Yeah.... this is way too much negative energy put into something that's simply not all that important. I'm considering perhaps a warning at the top to caution the IE6 user some things may not look quite right, but I'm not about to tell my grandma to go F herself because she isn't up to date on her browser version.

Dean440
06-22-2010, 05:54 PM
Yeah.... this is way too much negative energy put into something that's simply not all that important. I'm considering perhaps a warning at the top to caution the IE6 user some things may not look quite right, but I'm not about to tell my grandma to go F herself because she isn't up to date on her browser version.

I don't know why I think being mean is funny. I also don't know why I think people are such idiots if they don't know something that I do. I know I wouldn't like if someone did that to me. I guess I should probably work on those things. :thumbsup:

Those splash pages still amuse me, though.:cool:

Fou-Lu
06-23-2010, 12:41 AM
:P
I'll hit you up with an NC4 :D

jamz159
06-23-2010, 12:59 AM
If you want someone to buy your product, does it really matter? 80% of people have no idea what IE6 is anyway. Though it is our job to educate them, trying to have patience at the same time.



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