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optimus203
06-05-2010, 02:34 AM
Has anyone here started developing full production HTML5 sites? How far away to you think we are from full browser support and implementation?

code beginner
06-05-2010, 04:06 AM
two years

effpeetee
06-05-2010, 10:20 AM
These two sites of mine both use HTML5 and CSS3.

Website. (http://www.exitfegs.co.uk/)

Sources site. (http://www.exitfegs.co.uk/Sources.html)

They degrade satisfactorily in IE8.

Frank

optimus203
06-05-2010, 05:14 PM
Ah, so that resources sit is yours! Very nice, top 5 in my bookmark section. Thanks for all the efforts in putting that together.

My one criticism would be that the Search function isn't working well. Once I get past the 6th or 7th character of a search string, the input field resets.

effpeetee
06-05-2010, 07:20 PM
It's using jquery and jquery_highlight. Not my work I'm afraid.
It works best using single words.

I won't object if somebody wants to improve it!

Frank

optimus203
06-05-2010, 09:10 PM
Would google's custom search engine not work better for the site? http://www.google.com/cse/

I like the highlighting effect as your typing, but without the search box working properly, it kills the benefits.

effpeetee
06-05-2010, 10:12 PM
Would google's custom search engine not work better for the site? http://www.google.com/cse/

I like the highlighting effect as your typing, but without the search box working properly, it kills the benefits.
Thanks,
I'll look into it.

EDIT: Couldn't get it to work at all. I'll do some more research.

Frank

Apostropartheid
06-05-2010, 10:35 PM
I personally implement backwards-compatible HTML5 elements, like video and audio, and several CSS3 rules with a wide support base, like text-shadow and @font-face.

effpeetee
06-06-2010, 12:26 PM
I personally implement backwards-compatible HTML5 elements, like video and audio, and several CSS3 rules with a wide support base, like text-shadow and @font-face.
Comrade Grammar Nazi I also just use the facilities that are available or at least reasonable on the major browsers.

Optimus203 I have given up on the Google search. It produces nothing that I want and a lot that I don't. The links are generally quoted from the link sites, so they will need to suffice for the present, I'm afraid. I will keep looking.

Perseverance pays!

Frank

abduraooft
06-06-2010, 12:46 PM
I don't think googles's CSE works in your case, as it's show the results based on the "indexed pages on your site" (internal links). See he current results from google for your site at http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.exitfegs.co.uk (or http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aexitfegs.co.uk).

effpeetee
06-06-2010, 01:24 PM
I don't think googles's CSE works in your case, as it's show the results based on the "indexed pages on your site" (internal links). See he current results from google for your site at http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.exitfegs.co.uk (or http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Aexitfegs.co.uk).
I think the existing search facility is adequate until something much better is around. It does highlight the obviously relevant sites. It is up to the user to decide whether to use it or not. I have tried to help by selecting the link titles to include the most obviously useful.

Some of them are duplicated where I think that is helpful.

Frank

Scriptet
06-07-2010, 12:32 AM
I've seen a lot of sites using the DOCTYPE but not really using (m)any of the features, so it's basically just HTML 4 with the empty doctype declaration..

I think i'm going to start using it in my own personal sites where there is reasonable support. As for all developers in general I think we are a good few years off at least, because older browsers don't even recogonize the new semantic elements you can't target them from CSS (w/o a JS hack) so I think a lot of people will be reluctant to change until IE6 and so on are a distant memory (some people still consider IE5 even now :eek:)....

However support is pretty good amongst newer browsers..Apple are showing off a new HTML5 showcase (http://www.apple.com/html5/)as of the other day (requires Safari to see demos) it's definately on my to-do list to get on the know-how as if the features are there they should be used, if people have older browsers then they should expect a reduced expierence!



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