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auriaks
04-05-2010, 03:52 PM
Hey everybody,

I and my friend had a discussion about who is better:
a.) Electronics Engineering
or
b.) Electrics Engineering

The main problem is that we never came a decision which qualification is easier to work and gets more salary. The decisions must depend on UK and Scotland countries ranks.

Please, leave your opinion about what would you choose to be better and why...

Thanks for your time spending on this...



(I think this thread would not make any infractions because it is in "Geek News and Humour")

tomws
04-05-2010, 04:57 PM
I don't know where to get similar info for the UK, but the US government has a division called the Bureau of Labor Statistics that tracks salaries, hiring patterns, and lots of other information. Here's the Occupational Outlook Handbook page for engineers (http://www.bls.gov/oco/ocos027.htm) in general, which includes electrical and electronics engineers. Maybe that will get you some starter information and some ideas where to look within your own government's sites.

auriaks
04-05-2010, 07:27 PM
from that page seems electronic is better... :)

Apostropartheid
04-06-2010, 01:32 AM
The two qualifications may well be identical. Are we talking degree level here? Have you checked the UCAS website?

MattF
04-06-2010, 02:25 AM
Cited from that link above:



Although the terms electrical and electronics engineering often are used interchangeably in academia and industry



Numpties. Completely different trades. I'd personally go with electrical, if I were you. Unless you're planning on going into R&D instead of service, electronics is basically a dying trade, except in niche areas. The emphasis is on production and practically forget repair, these days. I can think of only one engineer I've worked with who's still in the trade directly. The others have either retired early or moved onto different, (and generally unrelated), areas. Electrical, however, with the upsurge in electrical systems in a lot of areas, (and all this renewable energy stuff), is likely going the opposite way.

auriaks
04-06-2010, 11:07 AM
R&d ?

MattF
04-06-2010, 11:55 AM
Research and Development, i.e: designing systems.

auriaks
04-06-2010, 05:06 PM
So you say that electrical engineering is better? More possibilities to find work?

Fumigator
04-06-2010, 05:45 PM
All those people in the Intel commercials wearing the white lab coats are electronic engineers. You should be one of them.

auriaks
04-06-2010, 09:23 PM
Work in intel and find a job are different :) It is possible that I will not get a job...

I have some offers already: from Southampton, Bath and Aberdeen.
I want to choose Southampton because of its high rank, but there I have no friends... In Aberdeen I have some friends.

tomws
04-06-2010, 09:26 PM
Who needs friends when there is the Internet? :D

auriaks
04-06-2010, 10:12 PM
:D this was real or joke? Because internet can't change real friends and spending time with them...

MattF
04-06-2010, 10:24 PM
So you say that electrical engineering is better? More possibilities to find work?

I would say so, though don't take it as gospel. :D In my view though, what you have are options something along the lines of:

1) Electrical engineering. Pretty much anything related to power distribution, generation, control etc.

2) Electronics service engineer. The repair/maintenance of electronic goods, in multiple sectors. Component level.

3) Electronics R&D engineer. The design of the above mentioned goods.


Number two basically suffers from mass production woes. Niche areas will still retain the replace/repair cost ratio that makes repair a viable option, but taking, for example, domestic goods, the replace/repair cost difference is usually negligible, (and can actually cost more to repair than replace), hence the demand is low. Top end gear is slightly different in that cost area, but even then, it's practically a case of board swapping rather than component level repair these days. To put it subtly, an over-educated board swapper who spent several years learning their trade just to end up swapping a bleedin' board over. Don't get me started on this, honestly. :D I honestly can't remember the last time I did a component level repair, it's been that long since.

You do also have to remember the fact that in each of the above mentioned areas you also have specific fields. Those three options will have multiple fields within them, so your options multiply, i.e: your niche area. In all honesty, your best bet is to look at the C&G training info on each trade and find out what the areas are, what rocks your boat out of those options and get some indepth info on your preferred choices. C&G info rather than the University diploma bunkum will give you more of a real world guide. I would honestly say that you'll likely end up in the main areas of 1 or 3, however, if you're planning on making sure you have the most opportunity in a future career. As much as I'd like to suggest number 2 personally, I do generally think it's folly these days. The system just isn't inplace anymore to make it viable unless you really do go into a specialised niche.

auriaks
04-07-2010, 03:20 PM
What the statistics tell about Free places to find work?... Is there any? :) Or it is unpredictable?



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