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Spookster
04-27-2003, 02:17 AM
If you didn't already know, there is no such thing as unlimited bandwidth. People new to world of paying to have their sites hosted fall into this trap all the time.

Hosts that offer unlimited bandwidth either are falsely advertising or are misleading people as they will likely have a clause in their terms of use stating "unlimited as long as it doesn't exceed XX amount of bandwidth" or "unlimited as long as your site doesn't adversely affect other sites on the server".

Anyways here is a great thread about this misonception of unlimited bandwidth over at webhostingtalk

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=110243&perpage=15&pagenumber=1

As the sayings go...."If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is" and "Caveat Emptor".

Nightfire
04-27-2003, 04:08 AM
I think this should be made a sticky *COUGH*

Many people fall for umlimited bandwidth, I am one of them, until about a year ago when I somehow went over my bandwidth :confused:

If any host mentions unlimited, it's not unlimited.... READ THEIR TOS BEFORE paying for anything!! All hosts that provide this unlimited bandwidth always have a loop hole and could charge you for extra bandwidth you use if you don't read the T&C or TOS

Phool
04-27-2003, 06:09 AM
business is business.

There isnt much you can do about this sort of thing.

jkd
04-27-2003, 06:25 AM
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Morgoth
04-27-2003, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by Spookster
"Caveat Emptor"

What is that?

Also, as I see it, the only way to get unlimited bandwidth is if you pay by bandwidth! They say, you get unlimited bandwidth because you don't have a limit!

Just like some cell phones... You make the calls, and they charge you for the calls at the end of the month!

Meaning: You upload your site, they run it, and as soon as the end of the month comes around, you notice a good some of money missing from your bank account!

I sugguest some people to not bother with hosting a large site and paying so much for it. I suggest you make a site that is small, which means, easy, simple, and user friendly!

Or go to one of those pay per bandwidth consumption places. You get charged a good amount of money per byte... $0.01 a kilobyte bandwidth.. That sound like a good idea?

Picture.jpg = 5.78Kb (small picture)
Cost = $0.06/View
Views/Month = 14
Monthy Cost = $0.84
Views/Year = 168
Yearly Cost = $10.08/Year

ALWAYS DO THE MATH BEFORE YOU BUY! Now it might not be this expensive.. It might be $0.01 per megabyte, but even still... It adds up!

krycek
04-27-2003, 11:39 PM
hmmm, $0.01 per Kb seems awfully expensive... I charge $3.00 per Gb for people who go OVER their limit.

But yes, there is no such thing as "unlimited" bandwidth. If anyone stopped to think, they would realise that it's kinda impossible... :p

::] krycek [::

Morgoth
04-28-2003, 02:02 AM
The only way to get unlimited bandwidth is to run your site off a server that is on a connection that if it went above it's bandwidth, everything would start to slow down, and you would just have to wait a matter of time for all the connections to leave, and you will be able to download again!

Revisedcode
04-28-2003, 09:07 AM
This is a valid subject, hosting is getting way outta hand, but its a business I am in NOW.... I host over 30 domains presently :)

I have experience with several BIG HOSTING Companys that claim to offer unlimited bandwidth or say a high amount like 50 gigs.

Only problem is server load and cpu usage, that makes all the difference. While many companys offer UNLIMITED THIS...
Unlimited That..... they have the cpu set to 12 similtaneous HITS.
This means the 13th HIT on your CPU the user will get a 500 server error, or a user exceeded cpu usage....


I found out the hard way but asking mass questions, that for 20 bucks a month you get unlimited bandwidth, but mass TRAFFIC at once will not be possible. The cpu limit was 12. So I ask what do I get for the merchant account...for 50 a month..40 HITS, now thats not too bad, but dont ever do live advertizing...so next level was 100 a month and with that I was told the 'tech' didnt know what it was set for......

I tried again to get answers in my quest for decent hosting...
A few companies said SERVER LOAD was classified and they wouldnt even tell me the type of access to expect.


I found out the only way to get TRUE VALUE in HOSTING was to HOST MY OWN STUFF...

So I got a dedicated box....apache/linux running cpanel.

Some people do not understand the difference between SERVER LOAD/CPU load and bandwidth or DATA TRANSFER.
There are 2 ways to count data transfer, outgoing and incoming.
Most companys combind this in there advertisments, so if you upload 5 gigs of files then let 10 friends download all 5 gigs each
you have 55 gigs of transfer roughly.


Example of high bandwidth usage with mass traffic at once..

I host a site for an author who makes apperances on TALK RADIO, when this person was on LIVE in December the site pumped out 6 gigs in one night, say a 5 hour stretch.
No way would this be possible on any HOSTING SITE for less than 100 dollars a month, regardless of bandwidth.


So my suggestion seeking hosting is to GET A DEDICATED SERVER.
Or if you really cant afford it, you must understand most companys put several hundred sites on 1 box and restrict access, but claim UNLIMITED BLAH.... so ASK proper questions.

Describe your site and its traffic, make sure you get VALID answers, dont let a salesman get away without a full explanation of the access you get for your money. If the salesman does not know all the tech questions, like cpu load max nodes etc..then get a TECH or SUPERVISOR on the phone.

At some point a LOAD LIMIT must be placed.
I have my apache set for 500 max connections NOT 12, and this is NOT shared, so each account can SLAM APACHE :)

I pay 250 to 310 a month for my box.
Thats a fair price for a dedicated P4 box, oh and it comes with a license for cpanel, web hosts dream...


Revisedcode :D

ionsurge
04-29-2003, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Nightfire
I think this should be made a sticky *COUGH*

Many people fall for unlimited bandwidth, I am one of them, until about a year ago when I somehow went over my bandwidth :confused:

A lot of people do do that kind of thing, one being www.agorahosting.com, who do kindly yet pretty hardly ask you to donate* a little towards bandwidth for their unlimited bandwidth package if you use more than 40GB, which is not really much for what should be unlimited.


* In other words, pay for per extra GB...

mouse
04-29-2003, 08:28 PM
I think it's important to understand that bandwidth is not data transfer. When a host refers to 5GB bandwidth per month they mean data transfer and should probably be ignored for not knowing their terminology. It should also be understood that, unless otherwise stated, this will be the sum of both upload and download to/from the server.

A host could easily offer unlimited data transfer, the reason being that bandwidth, ie the line speed from the server, would do the limiting. It's often the case that poor or cheap hosts overload their connections, yet they still advertise appealing monthly "bandwidth".

necros
05-07-2003, 02:00 AM
http://www.unlimband.com/ is maybe relevant ;)

I use http://www.pipeten.com who offer a reasonable amount of bandwidth.
They advertise it as bandwidth though which consfuses me. What they give me is 12GB per year of upload, download, email, etc.
So should that be 'data trasfer' or 'bandwidth' ?

ta!

Cloudski
05-10-2003, 04:21 AM
Hmm.. I'm on a free host.. (Ads = annoying, but I don't have money for constant payed hosting) And I have never hit my bandwidth limit at all, even hosting a large sum of direct linked avatars that get easil 1-2 hundred hits a day... I upload and download things on it regularly, and have several sites on it.

The only time where bandwidth even seemed to be in effect was when the whole server, except the main site of it shuts-down.

Scylas
05-21-2003, 01:33 AM
I have a site at brinkster (free) and sicne I remade it I been going over the limit every single day, its because its kind of an online photo album but damn its getting me pissed off...

Im looking for a cheap host with a nice amount of bandwith, any recomendations?

Jeewhizz
05-21-2003, 03:52 AM
Originally posted by Revisedcode
I host a site for an author who makes apperances on TALK RADIO, when this person was on LIVE in December the site pumped out 6 gigs in one night, say a 5 hour stretch.
No way would this be possible on any HOSTING SITE for less than 100 dollars a month, regardless of bandwidth.

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Where did you get that from? Thin air? I have sites on my server that have engulfed 20gb in an hour, and the srever loved it :)

Oh...running P4, 2.4ghz with 1gb ram... cpanel too ;) And i'm paying a helluva lot less than you ;)

And for that hosting pacakge, i charge below 100 bucks a month :)

Please get your facts right, or post a link with some sort of data before mouthing off other hosts (in general)...

Jee

STDestiny
05-23-2003, 01:58 AM
Originally posted by Morgoth
[Caveat Emptor]

What is that?



Let the Buyer beware.

Kingkerry
06-05-2003, 06:00 PM
Originally posted by Phool
business is business.

There isnt much you can do about this sort of thing.

Couldn't you contact the Better Business Berau if they are in the United States? I was also wondering if you could sue them for something like that. I mean after all it is false advertising or it could be considered a form of bait and switch.

Kaze-2
07-30-2003, 12:19 AM
www.freehomepages.com offers unlimited bandwidth for free. I didn't fll anything in which they could make me pay. Wonder what that means?

zoobie
08-18-2003, 04:07 AM
Well, what usually happens is the host looks at bw usage at the end of the month and deletes the worst account...usually without warning.

Kaze-2
08-18-2003, 09:12 AM
-Shrug- Not like i'll be that one, right? Not to mention i'll use ad free thing now ;) It's the same as my ISP so very reliable -Cough- Annoying -Cough-



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