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akakiller07
02-11-2010, 11:48 PM
Hey Guys!

I am some-what new to programming, and i am intrested in creating a gaming website, such as www.tppcrpg.net

I would really like to know which computer language i need to learn, and how i set everything up, i have been learning html for a few days now, and got the basics.

Please guys, i would really like to get this website up and running!

Thanks for your Help!

MattyUK
02-11-2010, 11:56 PM
I'm not sure exactly what you need to accommodate but I personally would concentrate on the following:
XHTML, CSS for the front end.
PHP and MySQL for the back end.
You can do a lot with just those.

Javascript and perhaps Flash for the client interactivity.
You will probably want XML later (I know I do).

You could check out Notepad++ and Aptana Studio for starting coding environments.

akakiller07
02-12-2010, 02:35 AM
so, i can write the code in Notepad++? and once i get my domain name, il be able to transfer my scripts?

MattF
02-12-2010, 02:37 AM
Personally, I'd suggest putting a 'developer needed' thread up in the relevant forum. Getting a site 'up and running' and getting a site working correctly and as it should are two vastly different things, and learning a programming language ain't exactly a two week affair.

MattyUK
02-12-2010, 03:02 AM
so, i can write the code in Notepad++? and once i get my domain name, il be able to transfer my scripts?

You can write code in notepad within windows, but it doesn't give you nifty features that Notepad++ does.

You might benefit from a WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get) environment first. This way you can tell it to generate the HTML code for you and you can examine it to learn more about how it works. Once you get good and remember most/much of it you can use notepad++ to help you write the code cleanly and directly.

Once you have your HTML code and graphics, you can use FTP to put them onto whatever hosting account your domain is tied too.

Honestly MattF is right. I suspect you have vastly underestimated the amount or learning and work involved.

Why not set yourself a challenge to cut your teeth on? If you can get the homepage done (menus, sections, text, graphics and any special effects) and turn it into a basic template for all remaining pages then you've made a good start.

You could learn a lot by paying for the website to be built for you then taking it apart and updating it yourself.

Check out:
http://w3schools.com/
http://w3schools.com/html/default.asp
http://w3schools.com/xhtml/default.asp
http://w3schools.com/css/default.asp
http://w3schools.com/php/default.asp
http://w3schools.com/site/site_standards.asp

and definitely:
http://w3schools.com/site/site_validate.asp

akakiller07
02-12-2010, 04:07 AM
so, i should pay someone to make the website for me? how will that work?

_Aerospace_Eng_
02-12-2010, 08:39 AM
You tell the person you are looking to hire EXACTLY what it is that you want. They can in turn give you an estimated cost if possible or you can tell them your budget. If your budget is too low they likely won't accept the job so you may need to think about increasing how much you are willing to pay.

MattyUK
02-12-2010, 01:14 PM
so, i should pay someone to make the website for me? how will that work?
Well you want to learn right? It is often easier to learn picking apart and examining a finished product than it is trying to put it together. Like if someone gave you engine parts and expected you to assemble it. It'd be harder for you than taking a completed engine apart to figure it all out. Hence the idea you start with a finished product from someone else and take it apart adjusting it to be what you want as you learn. Just an idea.

Fumigator
02-12-2010, 05:24 PM
Hey Guys!

I am some-what new to programming, and i am intrested in creating a gaming website, such as www.tppcrpg.net

I would really like to know which computer language i need to learn, and how i set everything up, i have been learning html for a few days now, and got the basics.

Please guys, i would really like to get this website up and running!

Thanks for your Help!

My $.02 here... I can't get to the site you referenced since I'm at work, but I assume it's a text-based rpg. I can tell you from personal experience that to build a browser game from scratch requires hundreds of hours of your time, and that's if you're technically proficient. I'm easily over 300 hours invested in my own project (a browser game similar to Travian) and as you can imagine, to hire a professional to code for 300 hours would cost you around $10,000.

Don't let me discourage you though-- often times, coders are born from the ashes of big ideas, so even if you crash and burn on this current project of yours, you'll cut your teeth on it and hopefully learn a ton and who knows-- maybe 3 or 4 projects down the road, your original dream will become a reality, after you've invested the time and work it requires to become a real-life web developer.

akakiller07
02-17-2010, 05:11 AM
Can someone check out that website, and see how long it would take to make a similar site.

MattyUK
02-17-2010, 05:52 AM
Ask them. Sorry but I'd rather not sign up just to check it out fully. From glancing you will need a authentication / membership system (php mysql), the front end (XHTML css JavaScript graphics), a forum (php mysql). Where are you starting from? Realistically we can't tell you how long it'd take you. We can guess at how long it'd take us (if we sign up and put the time working it out), but how will that help you?

One idea is to just get started with making a homepage, site template and plan out the navigation and pages you want. Then multiply the time it took to do those by the number of pages you want.

Another idea is to ask them in their forums or to contact the domain owner perhaps via their whois record. A polite respectful request for information can go a long way. They obviously have this as a pashion so are probably happy to talk about it with you if you can get your request in front of the right eyeballs.

Best of luck.

MattF
02-17-2010, 06:19 AM
I am some-what new to programming


Can someone check out that website, and see how long it would take to make a similar site.

What does somewhat new to programming actually mean? What can you do, i.e: what skills and experience do you have, realistically?

blue1128
02-21-2010, 11:23 AM
Gaming website looks like fun. I'm still new with this sort of thing but I'm learning a lot with this forum.

firstalliancecu
02-22-2010, 06:00 PM
The skills required for programming vs web design are vastly different. You might get a better idea of what is involved by posting a job on odesk/guru/rentacoder. In reality, if you don't want to learn both sides, you'll likely be hiring at least two - a web site designer/developer, and a programmer. also possibly graphics, SEO, ... lots of different skills go into a successful site.

scripts99
02-25-2010, 08:59 AM
first create sturcture of website by frongpage or dreamweaver..


after that you can put code by using w3school as above give details.


now select any templates and config



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