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Doctor_Varney
01-08-2010, 06:05 PM
Nothing ever works across browsers. Can anyone suggest a WYSIWIG editor, that will write CSS, when I place things where I want them? There must be one, somewhere. Two years on the box model and I cannot comprehend it. I need to make simple web pages which work, without going back to Dreamweaver (which is awful!).

Thanks

Excavator
01-08-2010, 06:17 PM
Hello Doctor_Varney,
You sound frustrated this morning.
None of the editors I've tried produce reliable valid code which definitely causes lack of compatability with browsers.

DW is terrible but it's definitely the best WYSIWIG I've ever used.

Like I always say, the time you spend learning to code is much better spent than the time you put into learning a program that codes for you.

Can we see what you're working on right now? Maybe it is not a box model issue at all.

Doctor_Varney
01-08-2010, 06:31 PM
Got to go out in a few moments, Excavator. Thanks for your reply. I'll get back with more specifics, when I can.

You'll remember I was here, some time ago, making some progress. I've come back to CSS and because it just isn't an intuitive or logical process for me, I can't remember a thing!

Tried to get back into it, thinking that time spent learning would've done me good... (and yes, I worked VERY hard on it, so I'm angry). I Need a very simple layout structure, to share design work with a client and I've come unstuck on the very basics again.

Looking back over my older designs, there's some kind of problem with everything I ever did. Heaps and heaps of folders, full of half finished projects.

I started doing digital music last year and in a very short time, compiled heaps and heaps of folders, full of satisfying work, which was all finished and polished.

Obviously, my strengths are not in CSS coding or CSS is designed to be purposefully obfuscate, or forums like this would be half empty. They're full of perfectly intelligent, creative people, who just can't seem to get the hang of placing a simple box or an image, exactly where they want it. Something MUST be wrong, somewhere. It doesn't add up.

Everything I do, I do well and with enthusiasm. When I open Notepad++. I start to feel sick and agitated.

Huh... Thanks for reading. I just needed a rant. Feel better now... :)

Nice to see you again, by the way. Hope you are well!

Regards

Dr. V

Excavator
01-08-2010, 06:59 PM
Glad to see you back Doc - of course I remember you :thumbsup:
Things are going well here in Alaska, thanks for asking. It's winter and my off season so I'm back on the computer again. I can sympathize how you re-experience the learning curve after being away from CSS for a bit. I am away from it every summer then come back to it every winter. For me, the learning curve is getting progressively flatter every year so I hope someday soon to actually know it all.

Maybe you just need a template or a blog site? (:eek: yes, I said blog:rolleyes:)
Something like that would remove the site building responsibilities and leave you to presenting your digital music. A blog could actually be a viable solution as long as you didn't expect too much from it.

There are also plenty of free empty layouts that can give you a headstart on building your own site. I have several right here (http://nopeople.com/design/CSS%20tips/index.html).

Doctor_Varney
01-08-2010, 07:17 PM
Well, that sounds tempting. I wasn't aware you could just jump into blogging, in that fashion. Yes, I do desperately need to lose the design/layout responsibility and concentrate on putting out good information.

The music's no more than a hobby at present. Professionally, I am employed in Special FX make-up design for a feature film. I'm looking for a way of presenting designs and photos of clay roughs with accompanying text. This for the producer's benefit, instead of sending disjointed emails. The plan is, when the film is released, I would then release the website publicly, as a kind of 'making of' feature, to help boost my profile.

Excavator
01-08-2010, 08:33 PM
Well, that sounds tempting. I wasn't aware you could just jump into blogging, in that fashion. Yes, I do desperately need to lose the design/layout responsibility and concentrate on putting out good information.

My sister uses blogger. (https://www.blogger.com/start) It's simple enough that even she can post to it. Plus it's free.
You may appreciate the way it catelogues previous posts and archives older ones keeping track of everything you add to it.

Have a look at some semi-interesting examples.
http://photo-pt.blogspot.com/
http://www.ratherbeblogging.com/
http://modernmedusahead.blogspot.com/

I hope it doesn't sound like I'm advertising for blogger. There are LOTS of blogging services, as you can see if you google for them. Blogger is just the only one I've ever dealt with.


This for the producer's benefit, instead of sending disjointed emails. The plan is, when the film is released, I would then release the website publicly, as a kind of 'making of' feature, to help boost my profile.
You can publish your blog ONLY to individuals you specify, that would take care of your password problem.
You can also co-author it with someone if you are not the only one contributing.

Free blog services (http://www.google.com/search?q=free+blog+service&sourceid=ie7&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=&oe=)

Doctor_Varney
01-08-2010, 08:49 PM
Wow, that is fantastic!

Exactly everything I need there... Yeah, maybe you should adertise for Blogger... LOL... What the hell - you've certainly sold it to me!

Yep - way forward I think. I can always learn CSS at a later stage. I so need to get up and running fast and do what I do best, which is 'makin' stuff'. This looks like the intelligent solution to me.

Many thanks again

Regards

Dr. V

Doctor_Varney
01-08-2010, 11:06 PM
I like the look of this:
http://www.squarespace.com/tour/

Thing is, because of the nature of what I do, I need some control over the images on the background.

Apostropartheid
01-09-2010, 09:46 PM
But remember it's $8 a month, probably more eventually if you're uploading music. I think something like Tumblr would be more up your street, because the background image is always swappable if the designer has enabled that function. In addition, it has a built-in media player.

mobotech
01-10-2010, 02:26 AM
Wow, that is fantastic!

Exactly everything I need there... Yeah, maybe you should adertise for Blogger... LOL... What the hell - you've certainly sold it to me!

Yep - way forward I think. I can always learn CSS at a later stage. I so need to get up and running fast and do what I do best, which is 'makin' stuff'. This looks like the intelligent solution to me.

Many thanks again

Regards

Dr. V

Hey Dr., don't give up, I know exactly how you feel, I had some design experience in the past but when it came to coding I was a total slack.
Bought a book and only knew the basic of HTML and basic understanding of CSS.
My biggest issue was learning floats and the box model.
Than gave up.

2 years forward, I got fed up of not having any specific skills and always wanted to learn HTML/CSS.
So far, I've learned a whole lot in the past month or 2, big thanks to w3schools.com and css.maxdesign.com.au (do not learn from a book, a big waste, great for reference though)

I'm now able to create a site from scratch. Next, on my list will be converting a Photoshop to HTML/CSS.

The big reason why I couldn't grasp the CSS 2 years ago was the fact that most of what I've learned came from a book and not applying that to a notepad.
Second, was because I was not patient enough.

Later!



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