alternative to telnet/ssh

[loonatik]

i'm using http://www.mysql.com/articles/ddws/8.html to build a db, but unfortunately, my webhost won't give me telnet or ssh access. is there an alternate way to create dbs or an easier manual to using phpmyadmin? because phpmyadmin is way too technical and i cannot follow. can i use a mysql client even if i don't have telnet/ssh access? thanks.

[raf]

well, i'm not the smartest kid around, so this is just my personal opion !!

I use MySQL front on my onw machine (where i have a development environment set up for my apps). If i update my site or have a new releas, then i export the tables (MySQL front builds a .sql file). You can specify there if you only want to export the structure or data or both. In phpMyAdmin, you can link to this file and it is then run as a sort of sql script. This script contains all command for creating/updating the tables and values.

This is not working directly on the production database, but since i always try it first on my development environnement, i don't mind. My host doesn't allow the use of a client but has phpMyAdmin. At first i didn't like it at all, but i don't find it that difficult to use.
<personal opinion>In fact, I find MySQL-front better developped, more powerful and userfriendlier then phpMyAdmin</personal opinion>



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[loonatik]

thanks. i got my way around phpmyadmin even though it's still confusing.