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bar03
03-30-2003, 09:11 PM
Hi Folks!


I'm what you might call a "beginner" in web building. I've learnt a bit about HTML and the site I'm trying to create does look O.K but it's needs more!

For example, when you see a logo on a website how is that done? Certainly not HTML! or Javascript. I've heard about Dreamweaver and Flash. Could these do it. I don't want a really complicated website but I would like to make it a bit more professional looking!

I'd really appreciate any advice!:)

liorean
03-30-2003, 09:20 PM
Well, your best choice, as I see it, is going somewhere you can learn it from the basics. Some things that are quite basic, you have to know before you proceed to more complicated matters. (Flash is rather complicated, at least if you want to do something that looks nice and is useful in it.)

Have a look at these:
w3schools (http://www.w3schools.com/)
Tucows HTML (http://html.tucows.com/) - and all too underestimated resource

bar03
03-30-2003, 09:22 PM
Thanks a lot Liorean...I'm on to it!:)

mouse
03-30-2003, 09:27 PM
You mean a you're a n00b?! http://silverpaw3d.com/smilies/hmmlaugh.gif

Logo's can be done in Flash or in a gaphics package like Photoshop, Paint Shop Pro, Illustrator, GIMP, Freehand, erm, Corel Draw, loads of stuff. Flash is a vector format which can mean a very crisp and scalable image for a fairly small file size. Formats useable on the web are generally jpg/jpeg, gif and png.

http://webmonkey.com is a nice place to learn a few basics and of course we have many members here http://silverpaw3d.com/smilies/wave.gifable to help with pretty much every field of web building.

pardicity3
03-30-2003, 11:07 PM
Yeah for beginners!!!:thumbsup:

One tip: don't get discouraged...many a times I have been ready to quite only to find that the reward for persistance and fixing problems is too great to miss out on.

As for the logos, mouse gave you plenty of programs, all of which are good. If you have any trouble you can always search the wonderful web for "photoshop tutorials" or "GIMP tips". And never forget, coding forums can help you with almost anything!! :cool:

oracleguy
03-31-2003, 01:28 AM
If you haven't yet, start messing around with CSS. It is a very important part of building webpages. The afore mentioned w3schools website has a great CSS Section (http://www.w3schools.com/css/) that explains everything from the ground up.

ionsurge
03-31-2003, 11:32 AM
Originally posted by mouse
Flash is a vector format which can mean a very crisp and scalable image for a fairly small file size. Formats useable on the web are generally jpg/jpeg, gif and png.


Flash is pretty good for design, yes. However, alone it is not near enough powerful.

Generally when making something, you will find that you will be using several programs together, merging one thing with another.


For example, when making a title, I would generally follow this route.


1. Create an abstract image. Use Maya (http://www.aliaswavefront.com), or 3D Studio Max 5 (http://www.discreet.com).

2. Touch it up with Photoshop (http://www.adobe.com) - This is arguably the best graphics editor out there

3. Import it into a flash program. Not flash, something like Plasma 3D (http://www.discreet.com), or Swift 3D 3 (http://www.swift3d.com)

4. Import the end result into Flash (http://www.macromedia.com).


You'll learn as you go along, and you'll realise that one package just will not do.

meow
03-31-2003, 02:21 PM
There's always Paint. :)

http://www.netspace.net.au/~feigh/paint.html

oracleguy
03-31-2003, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by meow
There's always Paint. :)

http://www.netspace.net.au/~feigh/paint.html

:D I actually saw a site once that did all their graphics in paint. It was rather interesting, and the sad part was is that I've seen some websites that use higher-level graphics programs and have worse graphics.

Another thing, bar03, if you are coding by hand, make sure you take advantage of the W3C Code Validator (http://validator.w3.org/) to make sure you don't develop any bad coding habits.

bar03
03-31-2003, 07:08 PM
Thanks a lot everyone for your help. It sure looks daunting for a newbie like me but I'll get there in the end!

Maybe oneday I'll be giving advice on this board to someone just like me!:D



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