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View Full Version : Firefox 3.5 should be out today



drhowarddrfine
06-30-2009, 03:56 PM
Sometime today. It will take a while for it to get through all the different servers around the world.

I only skimmed this but here's a quick review. (http://technologizer.com/2009/06/30/firefox-3-5-review/) Note the javascript speed comparison graph, especially IE8 (shorter is better).

oracleguy
06-30-2009, 05:27 PM
I'm using it right now, I was able to get it from Mozilla.com

fside
07-01-2009, 07:08 AM
Downloaded it, today. No problem.

They've been really working on this version. There are additions particularly to css, but also to javascript.

One thing, some of the add-ons weren't updated. None that I use, though. But no doubt they've been looking forward to finally getting this out past 'rc'. Now it's time to fix nagging problems. I wonder if they threw a party?

bazz
07-01-2009, 07:52 AM
Well the 'check for Updates' button didn't do much. :rolleyes:

I had to go to mozilla.com to download it. Let's hope this time they have fixed the memory problem which apparently causes it to crash when viewing videos. Tried to watch bbc iplayer last night and ff crashed about 8 times and it seems to be the cause of windows crashing too.

when I rebooted, I immediately got the restore session/start new session and whichever I tried, it crashed windows about three times in succession.

If that's in the past now I'll be pleased. Otherwise, I'll switch.

bazz

abduraooft
07-01-2009, 01:39 PM
• See more like this:
• browers,
• internet explorer,
• firefox,
• microsoft
Better to post that link, http://www.pcworld.com/article/167654/5_features_internet_explorer_will_likely_crib_from_firefox_35.html :rolleyes:

ohgod
07-01-2009, 02:55 PM
no problems yet. played with a couple js heavy web apps and it was absolutely flying.

drhowarddrfine
07-01-2009, 04:39 PM
Let's hope this time they have fixed the memory problem which apparently causes it to crash when viewing videos. Tried to watch bbc iplayer last night and ff crashed about 8 times and it seems to be the cause of windows crashing too.Since I maintain 10 boxes for friends and family and never saw that problem, I presume it's going to be your player and not Firefox.


when I rebooted, I immediately got the restore session/start new session and whichever I tried, it crashed windows about three times in succession.

Again. Have never seen that problem, and if it happened to everybody, no one would use it. Fix your system or your install.

Apostropartheid
07-01-2009, 06:47 PM
Downloaded it and played with it for a while. Seems pretty fast, I like it, but I still refuse to use it whilst their theme is so awful! I like Dailymotion's player using the video element (whilst disliking their use of animated PNGs), so I can't wait to play about with that a bit when I get the time.

BBC iPlayer is fairly reputable...maybe it's a flash problem? Try updating that? I know that the BBC HD streaming will take a toll on your system, so perhaps it's running into memory problems?

drhowarddrfine
07-01-2009, 07:25 PM
The video element's codec is still up in the air. One side wants to use Ogg while the other wants to use H.264 and then there's Microsoft who doesn't want to implement anything at all.

However, one thought was brought up, today, to use the BBC player since they are "pretty sure" there are no potential patent problems as with the others. Some complain of Ogg's performance or data size but they are working on all that.

oracleguy
07-01-2009, 07:56 PM
but I still refuse to use it whilst their theme is so awful!

Then why not change it to a different theme? You aren't locked into the one it comes with.

Apostropartheid
07-01-2009, 08:11 PM
I realize that. However, I have not yet found a theme which isn't tacky or out of place, excepting perhaps Daum Blue. None of them feel like they belong on my desktop. Normally, I'd just do it myself, but documentation on the chrome seems to be lacking, and, being a designer rather than a developer...

oracleguy
07-01-2009, 08:19 PM
I realize that. However, I have not yet found a theme which isn't tacky or out of place, excepting perhaps Daum Blue. None of them feel like they belong on my desktop. Normally, I'd just do it myself, but documentation on the chrome seems to be lacking, and, being a designer rather than a developer...

This is the theme I use: http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla/firefox.html I'll have to check out the one you mentioned.

Apostropartheid
07-01-2009, 08:46 PM
Currently I'm on Windows 7 -- the one you mentioned looks like it's for XP?

drhowarddrfine
07-01-2009, 09:32 PM
Normally, I'd just do it myself, but documentation on the chrome seems to be lacking, and, being a designer rather than a developer...I don't have time to mess with this myself so I thought for sure there was a whole page dedicated to that. If you google for firefox custom chrome, there are all kinds of tutorials on that.

Apostropartheid
07-01-2009, 09:48 PM
Believe me, I tried, but all tutorials seem to trail off. I do find it incredibly odd that I have been unable to find anything like this, despite my labours searching.

drhowarddrfine
07-01-2009, 11:31 PM
Firefox Chrome Manifest (https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Chrome_Manifest)
Dark Themes (http://mozillalinks.org/wp/2008/10/the-dark-theme-side-of-firefox/)
AnyColor Addon (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6991)
Change Firefox to Any Color and create your own personalized theme.

gsnedders
07-02-2009, 09:22 PM
The video element's codec is still up in the air. One side wants to use Ogg while the other wants to use H.264 and then there's Microsoft who doesn't want to implement anything at all.

However, one thought was brought up, today, to use the BBC player since they are "pretty sure" there are no potential patent problems as with the others. Some complain of Ogg's performance or data size but they are working on all that.

Who has said they want H.264 to be mandated? Citation? Citation for MS saying they don't want to implement anything at all? BBC iPlayer has patent issues, as it just uses H.264 within Flash. Where was it brought up anyway? I find no results searching for iPlayer on public-html.

drhowarddrfine
07-02-2009, 09:55 PM
@gsnedders,
This is all old news from months ago but here is an update. (http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html)

gsnedders
07-03-2009, 12:28 AM
@gsnedders,
This is all old news from months ago but here is an update. (http://lists.whatwg.org/htdig.cgi/whatwg-whatwg.org/2009-June/020620.html)

I read everything on both whatwg and public-html. I do know what's going on. I'm asking for citations because as far as I know none of those claims have any backing to them. Linking me to something else doesn't make your claims seem any less questionable to me.

drhowarddrfine
07-03-2009, 03:34 AM
I read everything on both whatwg and public-html. I do know what's going on. I'm asking for citations because as far as I know none of those claims have any backing to them. Linking me to something else doesn't make your claims seem any less questionable to me.

Well, let's see gsnedders. You seem to need to expand your horizons. I assume you know who Ian is? Or do you? Are you aware he's the editor of the HTML5 spec? Are you saying he's lying on that post? Are you saying he's lying in front of all the members of the whatwg, the W3C and the rest of the world? Since you read both of those, have you seen any responses to his post denying such? If so, please show them.

If you read further outside those two groups, you would find the same thing mentioned several different places by several different people, but I'm not going to waste my time having to back up what the editor of the HTML5 spec says who is also a respected member of the web development community. If you don't want to believe Ian, then I can't link to anything you would believe.

I suggest you do your own research and also widen your scope of reading material. There's a whole world out there talking about this and you seem to be missing it.

BrickInTheWall
07-03-2009, 11:08 PM
autoupdate did it for me

gsnedders
07-04-2009, 01:55 PM
Well, let's see gsnedders. You seem to need to expand your horizons. I assume you know who Ian is? Or do you? Are you aware he's the editor of the HTML5 spec?

Well, let's see. I know who he is (http://www.flickr.com/photos/hendry/2965353704/). I'm one of the guys who he relies upon to write the pre-processing tools for the spec, so yes, I am aware he's the editor (http://krijnhoetmer.nl/irc-logs/whatwg/20090703).


Are you saying he's lying on that post? Are you saying he's lying in front of all the members of the whatwg, the W3C and the rest of the world? Since you read both of those, have you seen any responses to his post denying such? If so, please show them.

See this (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2009Jul/0102.html) from "Has Apple…".

Also, in the post you linked me too, that goes against your statement that "Microsoft who doesn't want to implement anything at all", as Hixie says there, "Microsoft has not commented on their intent to support <video> at all", which is certainly not the same. If you're going to appeal to Hixie as an authority, then at least make sure what he says is the same as what you are claiming.

Finally, do you really have to appeal to authority (a logically fallacy) to someone who has upon several occasioned denounced (http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html/2008Aug/0519.html) it?

drhowarddrfine
07-04-2009, 05:29 PM
Someone PM'ed me to let me know you are just 16. I see on your profile you must have just turned 17. Come back in 5 years.



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