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Zpixel
06-23-2009, 01:16 PM
I've heard about the easiness of building web applications using MS .NET environment, is it true? and in which aspects?

is it easy to make a graphical and great website using for example c#. I want to stress on the abilities of .NET for graphical designing of a web page.

somebody's asked me about making a good web application interface using c#2008. i don't know, if .NET has a special part for web designing?

udjamaflip
06-23-2009, 05:28 PM
When you say 'web design' I'm assuming you mean the interaction and layout of the page, opposed to the actual design which would be done in photoshop or something similiar, the answer to that is yes it is quite easy to grasp as it is all GUI and you can avoid getting your hands dirty with coding quite a lot of the website, however when it really comes down to it you will need to edit the C#, however this won't be an issue as there is loads of tutorials available online http://www.asp.net is one of 1000's of websites which offer GOOD video tutorials.

hope that helps! :thumbsup:

drhowarddrfine
06-23-2009, 05:55 PM
I began life as a web developer using .NET. I dumped .NET and Windows and have never been happier.

.NET is far too complicated a framework with over 10 or 20 thousand properties, it only runs on Windows, hides the actual workings of the computer from you, abstracts things making them difficult to change, creates huge executables and, to a degree, creates non-standard output.

The web is built on Unix and I would never recommend anything .NET to a beginner.

Zpixel
06-23-2009, 08:29 PM
I prefer php myself . working with .NET is difficult even in writing a non web application.
so, as udjamaflip said graphical designing of a web site should be done in photoshop or using templates. i thought .NET has provided something such as visual web developer which makes it easy to create the view of a website as the view we can see in designing a non web application.

as you know, a software designed in C# for example, can be very good looking due to using .NET components such as different panels, good style menu bars ,etc. can these components be used in ASP.NET to make the view of a website the same as a non web application? i hope i've been able to say what i meant.

udjamaflip
06-23-2009, 08:38 PM
Yes it can, I strongly urge you to give it a try, there are far too many people who are either "Gooo Opensource, Booo .NET" or "Gooo .NET, Booo Opensource" it is tyresome to watch an experienced forum member so quickly dash your request about using ASP.NET with C# to make the visual aspects of your website good, and slick. :mad:

However, rants aside what you asked is correct visual web developer will provide you with the toolbar you will be used to from developing C# software applications, as I had ported over from VB.NET software applications to visual web developer to make ASP.NET with C# web applications and found the interface very similiar and beginner friendly. Naturally (just as Dreamweaver does with PHP/XHTML) it over bloats your code when using solely the design mode so I would recommend you learn the code it makes for you so you can trim it up and place what you want in the future.

So in short yes, it will have very similiar effects available to you in .NET and has lots of little javascript sprites which comes with the express edition (which is free) which do loads of things from accordion style drop down menus to form validation.

Hope that helps! :thumbsup:

drhowarddrfine
06-23-2009, 09:28 PM
If you are talking looks of the page then, no, you do not need .NET at all. .NET does not determine how good a page looks. It's what final code is produced along with what the designer did. You can make the exact same page using anything so .NET does not make pages better looking all by itself.

drhowarddrfine
06-23-2009, 09:33 PM
it is tyresome to watch an experienced forum member so quickly dash your request about using ASP.NET with C# to make the visual aspects of your website good, and slick. :mad:He asked if it would be easier. It's not easier than PHP. And saying .NET makes better looking sites because it's .NET would be a lie.

I also find it tiresome that one assumes .NET is the answer to everything.

udjamaflip
06-23-2009, 09:54 PM
I am an opensource PHP developer the norm, but unlike yourself I am happy to trial alternative methods, and thankyou for modifying the quote out of context. :thumbsup:

drhowarddrfine
06-24-2009, 01:23 AM
I am an opensource PHP developer the norm, but unlike yourself I am happy to trial alternative methodsSo I tried .NET stuff for a year and that doesn't count?
and thankyou for modifying the quote out of context. :thumbsup:

Haven't a clue what you mean by that. I didn't modify anything.

Zpixel
06-24-2009, 06:05 PM
thank you.



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