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hthought
05-10-2009, 04:19 PM
Hello people,
i've created a social network like site mainly for programmers and computer lovers. I would like to hear your opinion about it. You can find it at http://codercaste.com

Thanx for reading :)

bdl
05-10-2009, 06:03 PM
Hey that's nice, but how does that differ from this or 100 other programming forums? It's no more a "social network" than this forum is. I don't see anything that sets it apart. Now, if you had created a "LinkedIn" or "FaceBook" style site targeted towards programmers & web developers, then you have a social network.

My personal opinion, you're spamming this forum to gain users for your forum.

woop
05-10-2009, 07:07 PM
My personal opinion, you're spamming this forum to gain users for your forum.I second that notion.

The site is SocialEngine (http://www.socialenginedev.com/home.php) with ugly colors and an appalling logo. What exactly more is there to comment on?

hthought
05-10-2009, 11:12 PM
Hey that's nice, but how does that differ from this or 100 other programming forums? It's no more a "social network" than this forum is. I don't see anything that sets it apart. Now, if you had created a "LinkedIn" or "FaceBook" style site targeted towards programmers & web developers, then you have a social network.

My personal opinion, you're spamming this forum to gain users for your forum.

But it is a facebook style site :) But anyway, thanx for the criticism :)

hthought
05-10-2009, 11:15 PM
I second that notion.

The site is SocialEngine (http://www.socialenginedev.com/home.php) with ugly colors and an appalling logo. What exactly more is there to comment on?

It's nice that people always have to say something good hehe :P

woop
05-11-2009, 01:49 AM
Well, I will say that SocialEngine seems like pretty nice software. I hadn't seen it before now.

You have to admit that there is nothing more to comment on than your choice of background color and the logo. Everything else looks default to me. Maybe it's just to early to be able to help you ;)

hthought
05-11-2009, 02:01 AM
Well, I will say that SocialEngine seems like pretty nice software. I hadn't seen it before now.

You have to admit that there is nothing more to comment on than your choice of background color and the logo. Everything else looks default to me. Maybe it's just to early to be able to help you ;)

Thanx for the comments :) I really admit that there's not much going on at the moment but this is a very new site. However, you will notice that there are some articles as a first content to the site. And since this is a networking site there will be more content when more people (hopefully) join. I mostly asked your opinion about the idea, if you would join such a site(not that one particularly maybe) and such things. I don't see why people above were so harsh, one of them didn't actually see that it was a social network site :D I understand if you don't like it of course, but commenting that i spam the forum when i have not spammed even once before is definately hostile, don't you think ? :) Anyway, thanx for your post woop, i'll try to add more to the future.

bdl
05-11-2009, 04:36 AM
I don't see why people above were so harsh, one of them didn't actually see that it was a social network site :D I understand if you don't like it of course, but commenting that i spam the forum when i have not spammed even once before is definately hostile, don't you think ?

I just don't see it as a "social networking" site. To me it looks like any one of a dozen other programming portal / forum websites.

You have a point that if you have actually contributed to this forum in the past, and you've not signed up solely to post links to a product or website, then you are not a "spammer". Nevertheless, you didn't post this to have critiques of the HTML or design or some other component relevant to this forum, you posted it strictly to get people to register and get involved with your site. That, to me, is spam. I don't have anything against you; you asked our opinion, and I gave it.

woop
05-11-2009, 05:29 AM
I mostly asked your opinion about the idea, if you would join such a site(not that one particularly maybe) and such things. I don't see why people above were so harsh, one of them didn't actually see that it was a social network site :DBdl is right in that the site has more of a look of a typical CMS frontpage than a social networking site.

As far as the idea of applying social networking to coders only, I don't think it's a really great idea. I wouldn't see the appeal to join to a graphic designer-only social networking site.

gnomeontherun
05-11-2009, 11:27 AM
I'd like to say that if a poster returns to discuss their post, they are not a spammer. It is no crime to do this, and the quality of this forum comes from the members who make quality posts rather than rude comments. There are some situations its clearly spam, but this is far from it. Lets talk about codercaste then.

First note the name makes me wonder what the site is for. I think of a caste, and I think of the social hierarchy of India, the caste system. I don't know if that is a suitable name, as it seems to suggest the opposite of social network, social stratification.

Ok so the concept of social networking is a big pickle, and regardless of your personal opinions they have become a huge force. There are some specific to coders, gitHub to be a big one, and Twitter (if you've heard of it) became popular from the push by coders who are still prevalent on it. So there are options out there, but what can this site do that others can't? At the moment it does the basics, perhaps that is good but can it be pushed to do more (or less) better? My first thought is what do coders need to share videos for, they have about 20 accounts on blip.tv, vimeo, youtube... My biggest suggestion is focus on the features that will be useful and cut those which are excess. If you get users requesting something, you can always bring it back. Good social management means you adapt to your base.

The site features are impressive, but the UI betrays the power of the site. I agree it looks like a default layout or color scheme, no graphics except a logo, and very pastel colors. It needs the same attention that was given to the functionality. Biggest thoughts: 1) soften the edges of the design, its very blocky 2) use some bolder colors 3) develop a sitewide color scheme 4) consider typography, and the text seems a bit small to me (I like to be able to read at a distance).

Best regards

hthought
05-11-2009, 02:05 PM
I'd like to say that if a poster returns to discuss their post, they are not a spammer. It is no crime to do this, and the quality of this forum comes from the members who make quality posts rather than rude comments. There are some situations its clearly spam, but this is far from it. Lets talk about codercaste then.

First note the name makes me wonder what the site is for. I think of a caste, and I think of the social hierarchy of India, the caste system. I don't know if that is a suitable name, as it seems to suggest the opposite of social network, social stratification.

Ok so the concept of social networking is a big pickle, and regardless of your personal opinions they have become a huge force. There are some specific to coders, gitHub to be a big one, and Twitter (if you've heard of it) became popular from the push by coders who are still prevalent on it. So there are options out there, but what can this site do that others can't? At the moment it does the basics, perhaps that is good but can it be pushed to do more (or less) better? My first thought is what do coders need to share videos for, they have about 20 accounts on blip.tv, vimeo, youtube... My biggest suggestion is focus on the features that will be useful and cut those which are excess. If you get users requesting something, you can always bring it back. Good social management means you adapt to your base.

The site features are impressive, but the UI betrays the power of the site. I agree it looks like a default layout or color scheme, no graphics except a logo, and very pastel colors. It needs the same attention that was given to the functionality. Biggest thoughts: 1) soften the edges of the design, its very blocky 2) use some bolder colors 3) develop a sitewide color scheme 4) consider typography, and the text seems a bit small to me (I like to be able to read at a distance).

Best regards


Helo Jeremy, many thanx for your kind comments. I really had no intention on spamming the forum, i just don't see why people say that. I just posted a site review on the site reviews section and it's a programming website, not one that sells drugs or such. Just wanted an opinion :/

You'are right about the caste remark, however a caste also means a group of people having the same position in society. Therefore, this should mean something like a group of coders in society. There's absolutely no tendency to appeal to selected people of course :) But i admit that you got a very interesting point there.

To be sincere, with making this site i had absolutely no intention of being something like facebook of course :) I mostly intented of creating an articles or blog like site with information for programmers and those who like coding, since i happen to be a professional programmer. However, i decided to give people the option of socializing, mainly as a future option, if more people join. My idea is providing new and useful content through articles. And as you noticed there is a video section too. Well, the idea of it is to just categorize useful videos from youtube like sites through playlists. I thought it would be nice to have them all like bookmarks in your account, but we'll see.

I'll deeply reconsider the UI of the site, seems that quite some people don't like it. I think i also agree with the typography, in fact i've changed the font size in the articles section some days before. I'll probably have to do that too for the remaining site.

Again thanx for this great criticism. That was really constructive and it will help me make the site better :)

hthought
05-11-2009, 02:13 PM
I just don't see it as a "social networking" site. To me it looks like any one of a dozen other programming portal / forum websites.

You have a point that if you have actually contributed to this forum in the past, and you've not signed up solely to post links to a product or website, then you are not a "spammer". Nevertheless, you didn't post this to have critiques of the HTML or design or some other component relevant to this forum, you posted it strictly to get people to register and get involved with your site. That, to me, is spam. I don't have anything against you; you asked our opinion, and I gave it.

It's definately a social networking site, pay more attention to it, it's more than obvious. However, today's portals and forums tend to be social networks too, since they have groups, videos, galleries and such. But that does not make it not a social network one at any case.


Could you please indicate WHY you say that i posted this to spam? Not an assumption, but an argument that proves that. There are posts with members on first post who ask for site reviews about pet sites, and you are calling a site review for a programming site at a programming forum spam? And at the site reviews topic?

gnomeontherun
05-11-2009, 02:41 PM
To be sincere, with making this site i had absolutely no intention of being something like facebook of course :) I mostly intented of creating an articles or blog like site with information for programmers and those who like coding, since i happen to be a professional programmer. However, i decided to give people the option of socializing, mainly as a future option, if more people join. My idea is providing new and useful content through articles. And as you noticed there is a video section too. Well, the idea of it is to just categorize useful videos from youtube like sites through playlists. I thought it would be nice to have them all like bookmarks in your account, but we'll see.

Well I don't really like Facebook (gasp, yes its true, its rather annoying), so good call on not trying to be like them! I think you've pointed yourself in a direction by saying you want to provide articles. The question then becomes how exactly do you expect the socilization to occur? Social networks thrive on having user generated content, will you accept articles or write them yourself? How can users connect, do you expect them to be strangers bound together by a programming language or by their contributions to the site?

I'm really just asking questions because I don't know your vision with this site, but any vision should be reconsidered from time to time.

Here are a few links about fostering a social network.

http://www.jackhumphrey.com/fridaytrafficreport/whats-your-social-networking-plan/
http://bobsbraindump.com/social-networking-tips-and-business-plan/
http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/managing-infosec/what-does-your-social-networking-plan-look-like-part-1-31396
http://www.bizzia.com/buzznetworker/my-half-hour-social-networking-plan-the-first-ten-minutes/

hthought
05-11-2009, 04:28 PM
Well I don't really like Facebook (gasp, yes its true, its rather annoying), so good call on not trying to be like them! I think you've pointed yourself in a direction by saying you want to provide articles. The question then becomes how exactly do you expect the socilization to occur? Social networks thrive on having user generated content, will you accept articles or write them yourself? How can users connect, do you expect them to be strangers bound together by a programming language or by their contributions to the site?

I'm really just asking questions because I don't know your vision with this site, but any vision should be reconsidered from time to time.

Here are a few links about fostering a social network.

http://www.jackhumphrey.com/fridaytrafficreport/whats-your-social-networking-plan/
http://bobsbraindump.com/social-networking-tips-and-business-plan/
http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/managing-infosec/what-does-your-social-networking-plan-look-like-part-1-31396
http://www.bizzia.com/buzznetworker/my-half-hour-social-networking-plan-the-first-ten-minutes/

Thanx a lot for the very useful links :) The initial plan i had for this website it to provide useful content so that people would find it interesting to read and therefore stay longer. I wouldn't want to press them to socialize. However, i wanted it to be an option. As more people join, they tend to share same interests, so there could be programming groups and such. Of course, user created content will be welcomed and articles, videos and so on are definately accepted. In thinking how people would socialize i'm thinking myself, who being a programmer, would want to take part in programming sessions, or projects, or even get to know of people who are into assembly programming, exhange ideas and more. I know there exist lots of forums and portals that do just that but i feel that most of them are impersonal and maybe a social network site could make the process a bit more fun and commiting. Therefore, my main idea at the time is to provide interesting content so that people find the website useful and start trusting it. Then, they would probably be a bit more open to join the site and socialize in a couple of ways.

webchalkboard
05-12-2009, 02:03 PM
Hi,

I haven't read all the threads above, but I think I've got a general idea of what's being said.

My first impressions are that it's not the prettiest site in the world, and the logo could do with a little work. I also quite like bolder colours, so don't be afraid of using some striking colours in your designs.

I can see that you're adding content, but I think you might be trying to monitise it a bit too soon. Perhaps remove the adsense banners, or at least try and blend them in a little.



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