Need Programmer/ Co-Founder! Designing Next Big $Billion Web App!

[NextBIGThing]

I am currently designing the next BIG web application that is going to take the internet by storm and surpass Google, Yahoo!, YouTube, and Facebook in popularity. I am looking to partner with a fellow programmer in the Chicagoland area to co-found this start-up and work together on implementing the design and code of the web application. I'm very excited about this project and want to spread this excitement and benefit to those who work with me on this life- changing web utility, and also to the users who are going to bring great life to this web application. I'm a fair, humble, kind, sincere, and honest person who is looking for someone with those same qualities. Please e-mail me at NextBigWebApp@gmail.com to request more information regarding this life-changing venture. Thank you for your time and I look forward to developing a great relationship and web application with you.

-NextBIGThing
NextBigWebApp@gmail.com

[gnomeontherun]

Honestly I hear a lot of these kinds of things, everyone has the next big thing. What you fail to do here is give any credibility to your idea, I mean no disrespect, but you should at least give some basic detail about your concept (even a programming language or required traits would be helpful).

[NancyJ]

You can't call yourself humble and say "I am currently designing the next BIG web application that is going to take the internet by storm and surpass Google, Yahoo!, YouTube, and Facebook in popularity." at the same time ;)

Do you have any investors on board yet?

[VIPStephan]

Oh please let me know once you have completed and gone live with your life changing application. I’m curious what would be so important that it could surpass all the popular apps you have named.

[oesxyl]

You can't call yourself humble and say "I am currently designing the next BIG web application that is going to take the internet by storm and surpass Google, Yahoo!, YouTube, and Facebook in popularity." at the same time ;)
maybe op can't describe how big it is and that's why is humble, :)

NextBIGThing: you must make people understand why is big to convince them, :)

best regards

[NextBIGThing]

I truly believe in this web application that i've designed, I'm already using it right now and I can't imagine living with out it. I can't disclose the specifics of this web application openly in the forum but if you live in the Chicagoland area and are willing to work intially part-time with me and eventually co-found this start-up with me, you have a great chance at being set for life. All that I ask is that you know a decent amount of PHP, Ajax, Java, and MySQL and are willing to help share suggestions. I know there are alot of sceptics right now, but I wouldn't even be pursuing this venture if I didn't truly believe in it. I want to create a team that is fun and passionate about this project, and I'm sure you will be once I show it to you> The brand name I have in mind is going to surpass YouTube, MySpace, and even the "Blog." Once we get this web application up an running we'll all fly out to TechCrunch50 and celebrate! Send your programming experience resume to NextBIGWebApp@gmail.com for more details.

Thank You and I Look forward to collaborating with one or two of you,

- NextBIGThing
NextBIGWebApp@gmail.com

[gnomeontherun]

I'm going to say this again...you fail to give us any reason to join you. I honestly get 1-2 of these kinds of things sent to me each week. So far, none have panned out to be anything more than just a halfbaked idea that requires a ton of development, and the person with the idea doesn't have any skills to make it happen, which then requires me (or any developer) to spend countless hours working on a project that has no future.

If I were you, and this really were the next big thing, I'd take legal actions BEFORE doing anything else to ensure that its yours. THEN worry about bringing on someone else. If you need someone because you don't have the skills or the money, then perhaps you should look for an investor.

My problem with this whole thing is the presentation. I understand not disclosing details, but something that is 'so big' that it will blow blogs out of the water is hard to believe. It just sounds like a pitch by a used car salesmen who is trying to get something out the door, a lot of flattery without any details.

By the way, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, and Google all started without being the next big thing. They expanded and grew because they focused, filled a need, adapted to their user base, and so on. None of them started believing they would own the internet, which I think is true of pretty much all important apps.

[VIPStephan]

I’d also suggest that before you look for developers to invest their time without ever knowing if they will get anything out of this you should look for and convince a venture capitalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venture_capital) because this is how most of the now big internet applications started up as well. And they probably had to provide (and had figured out) a business plan, some concept etc. (which you need to convince someone to invest money in your venture).

So, go and establish a company (register a company name, formulate a well planned business concept, set up contracts, get some serious start-up cash, and whatever) and then you can think about hiring some person to actually work on it and develop it to be the real next big thing. And if your idea will be the internet revolution of the 21st century then you shouldn’t have a problem doing all these things as eventually it will pay out.

[NextBIGThing]

This web application is actually quite simple to develop, and I'm working on this as a hobby right now, so no need to rush. Right now, I just add and edit media in my web application throught html, but I want to take it the next level and quite frankly I'm too busy with college and my dead end part-time job to study learning more PHP and Ajax for at least two months, but I plan to learn soon after just for the fact I know this web application has great potential and I love working on it.

Sorry for being arrogant earlier, but I really believe not only in the inital application we will put out but also the world of ideas that can be built upon this concept model. THIS WILL BE OUR PROJECT once we work together and everything will be based on SWEAT EQUITY or I can pay you by the hour if you like. I'm going to focus mainly on getting all the content, editing media, and the design of application, as well as marketing, etc. All you have to do is code this simple application. Btw are any of you guys from the Chicagoland area?

I would love to meet in person at a library or somewhere, so we can start collaborating and I'll share with you our billion dollar project once we both sign Non-Disclosure Agreements. Sorry for being so top-secret about this, but I have to for the time being. So if you're intrested just reply with a request or send me an email at NextBIGWebApp@gmail.com. Thanks.

[bazz]

This web application is actually quite simple to develop, and I'm working on this as a hobby right now, so no need to rush. Right now, I just add and edit media in my web application throught html, but I want to take it the next level and quite frankly I'm too busy with college and my dead end part-time job to study learning more PHP and Ajax for at least two months, but I plan to learn soon after just for the fact I know this web application has great potential and I love working on it.


If I could suggest for a moment that the biggest single obstacle to the success of this is written in that paragraph. If it is quite simple to develop, why would you let your 'dead-end' part time job get in the way. I would never say that college is not important but, I think you have a priority issue. As I see it: if the idea is so good (and I make no judgement against that notion), then nothing should be allowed to get in the way of it. As said numerous times on programs such as Dragon's Den, if you haven't got the will to drop everything to achieve it, then why should anyone else.


Sorry for being so top-secret about this, but I have to for the time being.

If your idea is so good then insisting anyone signs an NDA before you talk about it, is absolutely necessary. If you do not have one in place, anything you reveal about it is in the public domain and you forfeit your IP rights.

good luck. sacrifices will ahve to be made though, if you are to realise your dreams.

bazz

[gnomeontherun]

I'm native to Chicagoland, but currently exiled.

I wouldn't call you arrogant at all, I would say that you are very excited about an idea and you are trying to make us also excited. The problem is that experienced developers hear things like this all of the time. You aren't the first to claim to have the next big thing (just search the forums, there are other threads), and as I said from the start you have to really disclose details. I have a ton of ideas too, and I don't have time for them (like bazz pointed out) so people with the skills are reluctant to join forces with someone who doesn't have the time for it.

Most posters try to entice people by claiming these things. I suggest that anyone trying to post here avoid using these tactics, they don't work. Please don't take this personally, I understand where you are coming from and have done this before myself. However these are lessons I have learned and will improve your chances of finding a quality partner (you can probably find someone, but the question is are they competent or will they steal your ideas or will they leave after a month, etc). This is as much for your protection as ours.

1) They use a lot of happy talk, avoid discussing the actual idea, and make it sound like a golden opportunity.

What to do instead: Flat out spill your idea. Its probably not as original as you think, and you might be surprised at the number of people who won't join your project, but would actually give you some input about the idea. No great website came from the head of one person. If your idea is really groundbreaking, protect it legally and then you can

2) They make an offer to share the outcome, but often request that a coder actually make the page. (some people make a big deal of this, but provide no real details)

What to do instead: Sharing is great when you are able to find someone who cares about the topic like you do, but that works better with friends and not strangers. Rather than offer 'equity' (of which there often is none), offer payment. By this I don't mean offer profit from the first year or something, thats equity. Offer direct payment for work done, which is the how quality developers work.

3) They claim big profits but have no business plan. People with little or no business (or often coding) experience try to attract a developer to create their idea. This doesn't work, because all the work sits on the shoulders of the developer, and why should they do all the work for you to profit from?

What to do instead: Seek legal and professional assistance before searching a coder. If the idea really does have potential, investing a few bucks before hand will more than pay off in the end. It would help prevent possible ownership disputes, secure your rights, prevent someone from hijacking your idea, prove stability, and prove to developers you are serious. If you want us to be serious about your project, we need to see it from you first.

There are more, but this post is getting too long and maybe I'll write an article instead.

[NextBIGThing]

Okay time to get serious. I am willing to hire and pay a coder to work on this if they sign an NDA. This application involves the dragging and dropping of media (which I will collect and compile), so an understanding of PHP and Ajax is crucial. I have a partner on board already who is focusing on the photoshop editing aspects and server hosting. I have already completed the blueprint of how the application will look like and function, step by step, page by page. All I need the coder to do is program this simple application and smile once we pay them by check. Me and my partner are willing to invest up to $5k for this project, but we must be able to collaborate in person in the Chicagoland area. Again, if you are interested in helping to make this web application and are ready to become part of something life-changing then reply here or e-mail me at NextBIGWebApp@gmail.com. Thanks.

[gnomeontherun]

Thank you! You have provided some details (which are important), and knowing you have another partner (and some capital) gives your proposal a lot more credibility. I wish you luck, and if I were in Chicago still I'd email you :)

Still think you need to be realistic, and I hope that this is not a Google Summer of Code funded program...that would be slightly unethical. I'm just curious, but signing an NDA is no small matter. They should be reviewed by a lawyer before hand, so I'd not just copy something you find online and call it legal protection. I won't ask exactly where this money is coming from.

And I'd stay stop saying 'life changing application', its not selling. What sells is something clearly defined. Apple sells iPods by the millions because they are simple, not because they are life changing. They weren't the first mp3 player manufacturer, they just defined the product.

[NancyJ]

So thats a no to having investors on board then.

Not that it matters to 99.9% of the people reading this since you're so adamant about "we must be able to collaborate in person in the Chicagoland area". This is a global forum, have you consider posting on your local craigslist?

[NextBIGThing]

This project is fairly simple and straight forward and I'm sure any reasonable programmer can have this up and running within a month. I have been contacted by several venture capitalists regarding this project, but declined their advances for the time being, due to the fact the intial model requires very little investment. I, myself, am currently learning php and ajax code day after day in order to gain a better understanding of what needs to be done under the hood of this "internet vehicle". The design of the web application is just about completed with the implementations of html, css, and java code. Jeremy hit the nail on the head when he mentioned iPod. We are going to redefine and simplify the whole internet for users in a clean and steadily scalable environment that encourages user involvement. Again, if your interested in joining our team please contact us at NextBigWebApp@gmail.com, or else please refer qualified applicants to the aforementioned address. Thank You.

[it career]

First get a domain and website , if you do not have that $8 for buying a domain, you are not going to make it big anytime soon.

[NextBIGThing]

Hahaha, man you guys are funny and cruel at the same time. I was only trying to provide an opportunity for someone to work with our team. I guess I have to turn my attention to a different forum then. Later......

[bazz]

I have been contacted by several venture capitalists regarding this project, but declined their advances for the time being, due to the fact the intial model requires very little investment.

Well if some VC's know about your project, maybe you should explain it to us like you did to them. Obviously if they want 'in' they know something that you have not told us. This is likely to be the stumbling block you feel you are experiencing around here.

bazz

[NancyJ]

This is likely to be the stumbling block you feel you are experiencing around here.

...or that no-one reading this thread is in Chicago.

If you only want local people, you're better off advertising locally.

Of course the concept of 'face to face' is kinda archaic to me, I have clients all over the world and I've never met any of them. (though, one potential client asked for a photograph so she could get a 'vibe' off it :s )

[NextBIGThing]

The offer is still open, but I've recently come in contact with quite a few coders who live within the Chicagoland area and are interested in collaborating, so if you have what it takes and still want to be a part of the next revolutionary internet application please e-mail NextBigWebApp@gmail.com if you have good experience with Php, Ajax, and MySQL. Time is running out so please hurry. Thank you.

[Rowsdower!]

...I guess I have to turn my attention to a different forum then. Later......

The offer is still open, but...Time is running out so please hurry. Thank you.

These statements don't really add to your credibility. Especially after having said this earlier:This web application is actually quite simple to develop, and I'm working on this as a hobby right now, so no need to rush...Next I'd expect you to ask for my bank account details so you can wire me part of your $5,000 seed money. This is a familiar tack for scammers and high-pressure salesmen to take. It's easy, laid back, totally risk-free...but you better hurry up to get on board. :mad:

Not to mention that this:...We are going to redefine and simplify the whole internet for users in a clean and steadily scalable environment that encourages user involvement...
sounds ridiculous for a number of reasons.

Even if you're somehow legitimate AND serious about this claim, I'd have to say that user interaction is pretty much always a cluttering force, rather than an agent of internet cleansing. How many people host the exact same video on Youtube? How many people host the exact same picture on Photobucket? How many people post up unique, but pure crap images and videos on these same services? How many people post anonymous comments of spam on forums, blogs, and social networking pages? In reality, how wonderful are the embedded media files and the overload of animated GIFs in environments like Myspace or Facebook? And don't even get me started on the epic wasteland of humanity that is Twitter. These are all high profile examples of what exactly user interaction does to "the whole internet." Frankly, if you've got another one of these nightmares of hipster masturbation lined up I'd rather see you fall flat on your face anyway. Nothing personal, of course, I just hate the whole motif.

Look, if you're really a serious and dewy-eyed entrepreneur I'm sorry to chastise you so harshly. Keep on chasing your dreams but you need to recognize that you're a lousy recruiter. As for the NDA, once you took your idea live people would mimic it anyway (assuming it's that good). What makes you so sure that your idea would make millions -- for YOU? Google and iPod were not the first in their fields, even if they are the biggest right now.

In the end, if I/we end up being totally wrong drop us a line from Wall Street when you've made your fortune. We'll all take a ride on your private jet, promise to call you "Mr. Big," and take turns rubbing your feet with argan oil but until then I can't help but think that you're either lying or else not very realistic about what it is that you have come up with. Sorry.

[NextBIGThing]

We've received a ton of emails, and a lot of prospective partners. We're in the process of reviewing these applicants and evaluating if they're elible for the job. This offer is still open, but, please, when e-mailing us make sure you will be available to collaborate with us within the Chicagoland area. Our e-mail address is NextBigWebApp@Gmail.com. We would like to thank all of those who have participated in the applicant process, and wish you all the best of luck. Once again, Thank You.

[gnomeontherun]

Deciding to close thread, for the good of all.