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primefalcon
01-25-2009, 09:16 PM
They had a major crash (http://gizmodo.com/5121311/30gb-zunes-failing-everywhere-all-at-once?skyline=true&s=x) of pretty much every Zune on New years and now they've done a return to DRM (http://www.pcpro.co.uk/news/245859/qa-microsoft-defends-return-to-drm.html).....

And no surprises they registered a 54% drop in sales (http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10149362-56.html?tag=newsEditorsPicksArea.0)

IS this the death of the Zune?

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Apostropartheid
01-25-2009, 10:24 PM
Well, no. The major crash was ages ago and it was an easy resolve of wait a day. The MSN Mobile Music service isn't the Zune subscription service. That does run on DRM, but it's effectively $5 a month seeing as you can keep up to ten non-DRMed tracks a month.

primefalcon
01-25-2009, 10:32 PM
Very true but it does hurt the image of Microsoft Music which would in turn hurt the image of the Zune. Which is probably what caused the drastic fall in Zune sales. you could probably write some of that down to the economy but apple Ipod sales are up 4%

Apostropartheid
01-25-2009, 10:36 PM
Very few entertainment products can be written up to the economy: usually, entertainment does very well during recessions, and who could blame it? I think that seeing as iPods are very mainstream and will likely fare well whatever happens--especially considering the recent release of the new generation of Nanos. The Zune is locked into the US and, so far, is bought by people who really know what they're in for (imo). Microsoft will feel the bite for single-nation sales, I think.

primefalcon
01-25-2009, 10:43 PM
Yeah TBH I own an older ipod nano myself, I probably wouldn't go for a newer one though, since I run linux and apparently the newer ones don't run with anything but itunes....

so if anything happens to this I'll prob just stick to a stock mp3 player lol, which is a shame since I really do like the ipod

Apostropartheid
01-25-2009, 11:07 PM
Really? I thought Songbird had that front pretty much covered. I do use it in Ubuntu, but I've never tried it myself with a first gen Classic. The new iPod Nano is awesome, though (my girlfriend bought one.)

flynch01
01-25-2009, 11:13 PM
For anyone who's interested, the code that caused zune crash on new years.


BOOL ConvertDays(UINT32 days, SYSTEMTIME* lpTime)
{
int dayofweek, month, year;
UINT8 *month_tab;

//Calculate current day of the week
dayofweek = GetDayOfWeek(days);

year = ORIGINYEAR;

while (days > 365)
{
if (IsLeapYear(year))
{
if (days > 366)
{
days -= 366;
year += 1;
}
}
else
{
days -= 365;
year += 1;
}
}


// Determine whether it is a leap year
month_tab = (UINT8 *)((IsLeapYear(year))? monthtable_leap : monthtable);

for (month=0; month<12; month++)
{
if (days <= month_tab[month])
break;
days -= month_tab[month];
}

month += 1;

lpTime->wDay = days;
lpTime->wDayOfWeek = dayofweek;
lpTime->wMonth = month;
lpTime->wYear = year;

return TRUE;
}

oracleguy
01-25-2009, 11:21 PM
Yeah TBH I own an older ipod nano myself, I probably wouldn't go for a newer one though, since I run linux and apparently the newer ones don't run with anything but itunes....

so if anything happens to this I'll prob just stick to a stock mp3 player lol, which is a shame since I really do like the ipod

Occasionally the linux clients stop working after Apple tweaks the iPod database structure. However since all the iPod functionality is provided through libipod, once it is updated all the programs start working again. And in the past the maintainers on the libipod are pretty good about getting updates out quickly.

primefalcon
01-26-2009, 01:43 AM
sweet well let's hope :-) the Ipod is pretty cool

mathiastheok
01-26-2009, 07:41 AM
Wow Microsoft should have hired Innotech to clean up their date coding.

Well, I'm off to Chotchkies for lunch.

primefalcon
01-26-2009, 08:11 AM
Might have to give that a try, the program I typicaly use Rythmbox

flynch01
01-28-2009, 12:12 AM
Wow Microsoft should have hired Innotech to clean up their date coding.

Well, I'm off to Chotchkies for lunch.

Actually it wasn't Microsofts' code, it was a company called Freescale.

primefalcon
01-29-2009, 09:13 AM
Damm someone told me just the other day it was toshiba's code



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