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excaliber
03-02-2003, 04:38 PM
I have been working on my web pages to get them to be accessible to the common browsers. I have this web page preety close however the external style sheet is not recogbized in Netscape v3. Does any know how to use the style for v3 with loosing the compatibility with our browsers.

The page in question is at L

http://www.exousiaglobal.net

Thanks :)
jkd
03-02-2003, 05:02 PM
Netscape 3 doesn't support CSS.

An accessible page should be using markup that degrades well without styling applied.
meow
03-02-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by jkd
Netscape 3 doesn't support CSS.
And thank heavens for that! :p
excaliber
03-02-2003, 05:13 PM
Originally posted by jkd
Netscape 3 doesn't support CSS.

An accessible page should be using markup that degrades well without styling applied.

So then I should create a page that is accessible structly for Netscape v3 and when some one visits that page with that browser redirect them to the degraded page? Is this what you are saying?
brothercake
03-02-2003, 05:46 PM
No - the point is to convey your information using plain HTML, without reference to styles at all.

First - have a look at your page with no CSS at all, in any browser (netscape 3 is useful for this; so is Lynx; and opera easily lets you turn style off).

You want it to be legible, comprehensible and for the links and forms all to work; so that it makes sense in that basic state - accessibility is about making sure your page is useable in all browsers, irrespective of their support for css, javascript or plugins.

After that, you can use CSS and javsacript to add the advanced features and apply a visual design, and you know it's still accessible, because you thought about that bit first.

have a look at http://diveintoaccessibility.org - it has good info
missing-score
03-02-2003, 06:51 PM
Does anyone still use NS3? Hardly anyone still uses Netscape 4.
cg9com
03-02-2003, 07:13 PM
NS3? doubtful, i know i dont use it.
Borgtex
03-03-2003, 01:17 AM
Originally posted by excaliber
I have been working on my web pages to get them to be accessible to the common browsers.


NS4 and of course NS3 are obsolete browsers used by a very very small amount of people, so my advice: don't worry about them
jkd
03-03-2003, 02:21 AM
Originally posted by Borgtex
NS4 and of course NS3 are obsolete browsers used by a very very small amount of people, so my advice: don't worry about them

But that is entirely beside the point of using degradable, accessible markup.
nickoli21
03-03-2003, 07:51 AM
I think it would depend on your target group. If the NS3 and NS4 users were only 1% or less and they were not your target group and not spending a lot of cash, I think I would redirect them to www.netscape.com for the newer version.....

.....unless they were still using the 19.2k modem that came with NS3

Nick
brothercake
03-05-2003, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by jkd
But that is entirely beside the point of using degradable, accessible markup.

Absolutely - whether, and if so how many, people still use netscape 3 is irrelevant to the point - it's just that netscape 3 is a useful test browser for no-CSS.

The idea of "target groups" for websites is essentially a misnomer; your target group is "all browsers" - and using well structured, semantically meaningful markup will help you to acheive this.

But in point of fact - I maintain my own personal site, and a corporate site, and in both cases ns3 shows four times as many visitors as ns4.