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Fou-Lu
10-20-2008, 07:41 AM
Mkay, I'm not a designer (hense free gimp :D). I'm creative, but terrible with images and colours.
That said, I'm looking for a way to create a 'paint brush stroke' effect. As in, I'm writing words in japanese calligraphy, and would like it to have the paint brushed look to it (I really hope this makes sense lol). Sadly, the built in calligraphy brushes are really not suited for this type of calligraphy.
Since I am dealing with text, a preferred solution would be to convert the text itself. I have a feeling I'll be outta luck on that one, but it would be nice - I don't think a glyph set exists for what I'm looking at; I'll write manually if necessary on a tablet.
A simple tutorial (one with pictures would be nice :D) would really help me out. Oh, if there's a way to make it look like wet paint as well, all the better!
Plz help the image mak'r n00B :P

FWDrew
10-20-2008, 08:28 AM
Mkay, I'm not a designer (hense free gimp :D). I'm creative, but terrible with images and colours.
That said, I'm looking for a way to create a 'paint brush stroke' effect. As in, I'm writing words in japanese calligraphy, and would like it to have the paint brushed look to it (I really hope this makes sense lol). Sadly, the built in calligraphy brushes are really not suited for this type of calligraphy.
Since I am dealing with text, a preferred solution would be to convert the text itself. I have a feeling I'll be outta luck on that one, but it would be nice - I don't think a glyph set exists for what I'm looking at; I'll write manually if necessary on a tablet.
A simple tutorial (one with pictures would be nice :D) would really help me out. Oh, if there's a way to make it look like wet paint as well, all the better!
Plz help the image mak'r n00B :P
Hey fou lou,

You could acheive this effect a lot of ways, but using layer masks with text will probably be the most effective and best looking. If I were you I would download these:http://www.bittbox.com/freebies/free-hi-res-watercolor-photoshop-brushes/ and install them in GIMP (gimp can install photoshop brushes).

Have a look at this tutorial http://psdtuts.com/tutorials/designing-tutorials/dynamic-recessed-watercolor-typography-in-photoshop/, its for photoshop but the techniques are the same. Basically you want to use some brushes that have the effect you are looking for and then mask them so they only come through on the text layer, giving you a brushed text look.

Sort of a hard thing to explain in type, but I hope that helps.

Drew

EDIT-Been awhile since I have used gimp so you will probably have to play around with converting the text to a path and setting a layer mask to have the brushes show through the paths.

DOUBLE EDIT-Also, you could make a selection out of the text and stroke the selection with a brush of your choice and then edit the colors via colorize function.

oesxyl
10-20-2008, 01:55 PM
Mkay, I'm not a designer (hense free gimp :D). I'm creative, but terrible with images and colours.
That said, I'm looking for a way to create a 'paint brush stroke' effect. As in, I'm writing words in japanese calligraphy, and would like it to have the paint brushed look to it (I really hope this makes sense lol). Sadly, the built in calligraphy brushes are really not suited for this type of calligraphy.
Since I am dealing with text, a preferred solution would be to convert the text itself. I have a feeling I'll be outta luck on that one, but it would be nice - I don't think a glyph set exists for what I'm looking at; I'll write manually if necessary on a tablet.
A simple tutorial (one with pictures would be nice :D) would really help me out. Oh, if there's a way to make it look like wet paint as well, all the better!
Plz help the image mak'r n00B :P
this is a job for script-fu, :)

script-fu (http://www.seul.org/~grumbel/gimp/script-fu/script-fu-tut.html)
cap.12 - scripting and ... script-fu, :) (http://docs.gimp.org/en/gimp-concepts-script-fu.html)

don't kill me is scheme not lisp, :)

best regards

Fou-Lu
10-20-2008, 05:02 PM
omg that is lisp-ish though, but looks easier :P
That looks like it will be a good tutorial to actually make the script fu, but right now I'm not certain what I actually need to make it do >.<
Any ideas for how to actually make the look?

FWDrew
10-20-2008, 09:32 PM
I have to disagree this is a job for script-fu, scripts are great for backend development, not design. Plus, you dont learn anything and the effect rarely looks as good. :)

Have you tried any of the techniques I mentioned above? Have you tried using layer masks? What about stroking the selection with a downloadable brush that will give you the look you want?

Regards,

Drew

oesxyl
10-20-2008, 09:39 PM
omg that is lisp-ish though, but looks easier :P
That looks like it will be a good tutorial to actually make the script fu, but right now I'm not certain what I actually need to make it do >.<
Any ideas for how to actually make the look?
Usualy this is a "mark as readed" forum and sometimes "report spam". I'm terrible with graphics so I solved, I make team with an artist, :)
My answer was based on the assumption that FWDrew said "how" to solve the problem and my intention was to help you only to automate the task and find a way to convert the text.
I try to find some documentation on the net. After I read this:

http://www.connectedglobe.com/ohmori/intro1.html

I understand that are many elements hard to reproduce, see the list from "What distinguishes good calligraphy from bad?".

One of the way is based on brushes, FWDraw already post some links, I find and think that are usefull another few links:

http://www.chezplumeau.com/php/brush.php/EN/85
http://www.chezplumeau.com/php/brush.php/EN/227
http://www.brusheezy.com/brush/795-Handwriting-Brush

phrase search: japanese calligraphy brush

I didn't explore yet two other ways I have in mind, inkscape and metapost.

I make some correction to make the post readable.
best regards

oesxyl
10-20-2008, 09:46 PM
I have to disagree this is a job for script-fu, scripts are great for backend development, not design. Plus, you dont learn anything and the effect rarely looks as good. :)

Have you tried any of the techniques I mentioned above? Have you tried using layer masks? What about stroking the selection with a downloadable brush that will give you the look you want?

Regards,

Drew
I agree with you, :) My intention was to help to automate the task not to substitute the design part, :)
I have impression that you missunderstand something, I don't talk about "using script-fu" menu, I talk about writing scripts, :)( in fact to use what is strong to solve what is weak in persons like as, me and Fou-Lu, :) ).

best regards

FWDrew
10-20-2008, 10:27 PM
Sorry Oesxyl, I think I just misunderstood what you were saying :D Scrip-fu is great and can be used to automate a lot of cool design parts. I see you mean writing the script, which you would certainly learn a lot doing. Apologies for the misunderstanding :)

Best Regards,

Drew

Edit-Thanks for those brushes links, hadnt seen some of those before.

oesxyl
10-20-2008, 10:46 PM
Sorry Oesxyl, I think I just misunderstood what you were saying :D Scrip-fu is great and can be used to automate a lot of cool design parts. I see you mean writing the script, which you would certainly learn a lot doing. Apologies for the misunderstanding :)
no problem, I'm glad we make this clear, :)


Edit-Thanks for those brushes links, hadnt seen some of those before.
you are welcome, :), thank you for psd tutorials,:)

best regards

Fou-Lu
10-21-2008, 01:05 AM
Lay...ers? Strok...ing? Lol, I'm totally not an image guy >.<
The only problem with script-fu (since its nothing more than gibberish to me atm), is that I figure I'll need to figure out what I need to accomplish (such as layering, and shadowing etc) before I can do that from script automation, y'know what I mean?
Those brushes look great, I'll be trying out the second one. Now, those I noticed are for paintshop (or photoshop, can't quite recall lol), do you know offhand if it will work in Gimp?
Thanks for the help so far guys, at least you know what I'm looking for, which rocks!

oesxyl
10-21-2008, 01:26 AM
Lay...ers? Strok...ing? Lol, I'm totally not an image guy >.<
The only problem with script-fu (since its nothing more than gibberish to me atm), is that I figure I'll need to figure out what I need to accomplish (such as layering, and shadowing etc) before I can do that from script automation, y'know what I mean?
yes, :) FWDraw post help with this part, the psd tutorial, :)

I was looking to inkscape, this seems a good tutorial:

http://www.inkscape.org/doc/calligraphy/tutorial-calligraphy.html


Those brushes look great, I'll be trying out the second one. Now, those I noticed are for paintshop (or photoshop, can't quite recall lol), do you know offhand if it will work in Gimp?
Thanks for the help so far guys, at least you know what I'm looking for, which rocks!
I never try to import brushes from psd in gimp but FWDraw said that works and he know better then me this things, :)

best regards

FWDrew
10-21-2008, 12:07 PM
I never try to import brushes from psd in gimp but FWDraw said that works and he know better then me this things
Yup :) GIMP can handle most photoshop brushes as well as some other formats. What I always did when I used GIMP was just drag them into my brushes folder (On a Mac, so it was located in Application Support, need to restart GIMP after) and they should appear under your brushes when reloaded. Just be aware that a lot of brushes can take a looong time to load in GIMP :) In addition, there are GIMP specific brushes which I believe end in .gbr

http://gimptalk.com is a great place to get more help and resources with the GIMP.

As oesxyl mentioned, inkscape might be a good alternative (or illustrator if you have it), as it is vector based and does a nice job on text and logos and the like.

Edit-BTW, am I FWDraw because we are talking about graphics? :D

oesxyl
10-21-2008, 12:36 PM
Edit-BTW, am I FWDraw because we are talking about graphics? :D
Apologies for misspelling, :)

bet regards

FWDrew
10-21-2008, 01:12 PM
Apologies for misspelling, :)

bet regards
No worries at all, it actually gave me a really good laugh as I thought it was a nice touch on the topic :D

Best Regards,

Drew

Fou-Lu
10-21-2008, 07:14 PM
Bah, all of those brushes are just stamps. Thats ok though, one of them I found an article to actually edit the brushes (yes, I couldn't do that before :P). Methinks I'll be able to make meself a brush once I figure it out.
I did this with PSP6 or 7 way back in the day when I had it. I wonder if I still have that on my notebook somewhere...

twodayslate
10-21-2008, 10:37 PM
First off, thank you for using GIMP. I hope you learn to like it.

Here is my attempt at creating a calligraphy effect. It almost has a water color feel.
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/6386/testtv8.gif
LMK if this is almost what you wanted. I have the .xcf if you would like to see that.

Fou-Lu
10-22-2008, 07:13 PM
Cool, you're two days late :D
I'll let you know, now that I've figured out how to bloody edit the brushes I can probably come up with what I'm looking for. The effect I need though kinda tells me I'm going to be doing more manual work than I want though :$

twodayslate
10-23-2008, 02:27 AM
Photoshop brushes can be converted to GIMP brushes. It is easiest when on a MS machine (not linux).


Do you have an example of what you want and I can try to do it?

FWDrew
10-23-2008, 06:39 AM
Photoshop brushes can be converted to GIMP brushes. It is easiest when on a MS machine (not linux).


Do you have an example of what you want and I can try to do it?

Not to be repetitive but I had absolutely no issues installing photoshop brushes in GIMP when I used to use GIMP on my mac. So I dont imagine it will be any more difficult on any *nix system.

Best regards,

Drew

tagnu
10-23-2008, 07:32 AM
Hi Fou-Lu,

See if this helps.
http://digidea.blogbus.com/logs/28153961.html

Fou-Lu
10-23-2008, 08:31 AM
It might be.
I d/l'd it, but I'm about to restart to see if I can get gimp to use it.

Oh, and btw it turns out I found a usable font set. Not quite as fancy as I wanted it to be, but it will do (I can edit it around a bit :D).

I'll edit this post only if the restart makes the fontset available in gimp. Let me know otherwise if theres a special place I'm supposed to put it, right now its just in my fonts folder, and it looks like a sweet set (if its got glyphs for my characters but I'm not holding my breath :()



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