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tfit
08-03-2008, 07:47 AM
Hello all,

I don't know if this appreciated so therefore I ask before I post. I want a magazine reviewed instead of a site. Since this category is website reviews I asking if this will be approved. Thanks.

oesxyl
08-03-2008, 07:57 AM
Hello all,

I don't know if this appreciated so therefore I ask before I post. I want a magazine reviewed instead of a site. Since this category is website reviews I asking if this will be approved. Thanks.
what's the difference? I mean if is online and not on paper.

best regards

tfit
08-03-2008, 08:08 AM
what's the difference? I mean if is online and not on paper.

best regards
There is no difference, just not sure if it would be appreciated.

oesxyl
08-03-2008, 08:11 AM
There is no difference, just not sure if it would be appreciated.
then just post it, :)

regards

tfit
08-17-2008, 01:25 PM
then just post it, :)

regards

Neh, I couldn't do that :p. I would waste your time. I thought I could work faster :mad:, but unfortunately .... Anyway, It looked promising but in hindsight it isn't beta, it'sn't even in alpha stage!!! So I'm afraid you have to wait just a bit longer and I will post it here:D

oesxyl
08-17-2008, 02:15 PM
Neh, I couldn't do that :p. I would waste your time. I thought I could work faster :mad:, but unfortunately .... Anyway, It looked promising but in hindsight it isn't beta, it'sn't even in alpha stage!!! So I'm afraid you have to wait just a bit longer and I will post it here:D
Torture is not allowed on cf, must be a rule somewhere, I guess I could find it.
If is not a Joomla/Wordpress/Drupal... site can be reviewed.

In conclusion, post it! :)
Add a list with what is work in progress to don't waste critics, I need them for other reviews. :)

best regards

tfit
08-31-2008, 11:37 AM
Torture is not allowed on cf, must be a rule somewhere, I guess I could find it.
If is not a Joomla/Wordpress/Drupal... site can be reviewed.

In conclusion, post it! :)
Add a list with what is work in progress to don't waste critics, I need them for other reviews. :)

best regards
No, no, it isn't torture. In fact i'm doing you a favour. :). Anyway, it still isn't finished, but I need some feedback on the fonts used. I'm a bit stuck. Before I really can move forward I need some confirmation that the fonts used are legible. Ok, I warned you :D.
You can see for yourself:
http://allofunix.homeunix.com:8080/pilot.pdf

oesxyl
08-31-2008, 11:24 PM
No, no, it isn't torture. In fact i'm doing you a favour. :).
two favour, :) first is that look great, second is that probably only few people can see this now, :)


Anyway, it still isn't finished, but I need some feedback on the fonts used. I'm a bit stuck. Before I really can move forward I need some confirmation that the fonts used are legible. Ok, I warned you :D.
You can see for yourself:
http://allofunix.homeunix.com:8080/pilot.pdf
bad idea with this pdf:
- ArialMT, Verdana-Bold, Verdana-Italic, Verdana, that's the information
which pdffonts can give me
- probably Scribus preserve your intention, about fonts, but using xpdf
to view the file render how it can, :)
- gs see fonts as NimbusSansL-Regular

contrast between text and background is ok but will depend on font size,
on smaller font kerning disipear and will be hard to read. I guess that zooming
the page in or out will ruin the way it looks now.

This is great for a printable media but will be very hard to accomplice
same visual effect in a web page, cross-browsers and on different devices and at
different screen resolution and depth.
In order to make an impression I must see a web page with this design, to see
what solution you find for different problems and how this can work in a
different context then yours.

best regards

tfit
09-01-2008, 06:18 AM
two favour, :) first is that look great, second is that probably only few people can see this now, :)


bad idea with this pdf:
- ArialMT, Verdana-Bold, Verdana-Italic, Verdana, that's the information
which pdffonts can give me
- probably Scribus preserve your intention, about fonts, but using xpdf
to view the file render how it can, :)
- gs see fonts as NimbusSansL-Regular

contrast between text and background is ok but will depend on font size,
on smaller font kerning disipear and will be hard to read. I guess that zooming
the page in or out will ruin the way it looks now.

This is great for a printable media but will be very hard to accomplice
same visual effect in a web page, cross-browsers and on different devices and at
different screen resolution and depth.
In order to make an impression I must see a web page with this design, to see
what solution you find for different problems and how this can work in a
different context then yours.

best regards

Thank you, thank you for the feedback. Yes, the font type is my main concern. I never realized how much impact it has on appearances. It will be strictly an e-zine.
I looked at Nimbus but most of them will be subset and it didn't look great. Or maybe it was i forgot to include them!? Have to look in that again. About, the zooming: my intent it should be there. There shouldn't be any need to zoom in. I have to look in that too, to see if screen resolutions can be set. Thanks again

Millenia
09-01-2008, 07:57 AM
Thank you, thank you for the feedback. Yes, the font type is my main concern. I never realized how much impact it has on appearances. It will be strictly an e-zine.
I looked at Nimbus but most of them will be subset and it didn't look great. Or maybe it was i forgot to include them!? Have to look in that again. About, the zooming: my intent it should be there. There shouldn't be any need to zoom in. I have to look in that too, to see if screen resolutions can be set. Thanks again

Please remember that most people who have Linux DON'T have Windows fonts.
It may look good for you but other people may experience problems.
But I think it looks good.

oesxyl
09-01-2008, 11:26 AM
Please remember that most people who have Linux DON'T have Windows fonts.
It may look good for you but other people may experience problems.
But I think it looks good.
yes agree, same thing about *nix fonts on windows.


Thank you, thank you for the feedback. Yes, the font type is my main concern. I never realized how much impact it has on appearances. It will be strictly an e-zine.
I looked at Nimbus but most of them will be subset and it didn't look great. Or maybe it was i forgot to include them!? Have to look in that again. About, the zooming: my intent it should be there. There shouldn't be any need to zoom in. I have to look in that too, to see if screen resolutions can be set. Thanks again
I don't suggest Nimbus, that was what ghostscript used when I look at document. If browser, editor or any tool don't find the font you used then it render whith what it have local. I think this link can help:

http://alvit.de/handbook/#fonts

about zoom, screen resolution and window size. You can't modify user setings and probably you don't want because is unpleasent for user. You must deal with screen from 800x1024 to 1600x... last one is 2 times wider then first. If you consider that on large screens users don't have browser window full screen you get a full pixel nightmair.
When the page is larger/smaller then the window some user tend to zoom out/in but this can break the layout. This will explain better then I can do and give some solutions:

http://www.stopdesign.com/log/2005/06/24/zoom-layout.html

best regards

tfit
09-01-2008, 11:30 AM
Millenia,

No, no. this pdf was made om windows platform. And I know i have the minimal fonts installed so I guess it wouldn't give too much problems. Thanks for the feedback.

oesxyl,

When you say bad. Do you mean the use of arial or the mixing of fonts. I thought i changed everything to verdana. Must have missed something there. Someone give me the tip for using luxi sans and I'm still looking for them.

oesxyl
09-01-2008, 12:02 PM
Millenia,

No, no. this pdf was made om windows platform. And I know i have the minimal fonts installed so I guess it wouldn't give too much problems. Thanks for the feedback.

oesxyl,

When you say bad. Do you mean the use of arial or the mixing of fonts. I thought i changed everything to verdana. Must have missed something there. Someone give me the tip for using luxi sans and I'm still looking for them.
sorry, is my fault, I was talking about a web page. I converted now the pdf to postscript and I will be back with some comments.

best regards

oesxyl
09-01-2008, 02:08 PM
Millenia,

No, no. this pdf was made om windows platform. And I know i have the minimal fonts installed so I guess it wouldn't give too much problems. Thanks for the feedback.

oesxyl,

When you say bad. Do you mean the use of arial or the mixing of fonts. I thought i changed everything to verdana. Must have missed something there. Someone give me the tip for using luxi sans and I'm still looking for them.
it's a e-zine, I miss that and therefor my previous comments have less sense. When I said bad I was talking about posting a pdf, :)
No, mixing fonts is not bad, pdf can embed fonts and this way different platform are not a problem as far as document is a valid pdf. Screen resolution/depth are not critic and zoom not a big problem.
About fonts, it's more easy then in a web page, :) Not easy to choose but you have a lot of option, :). Arial Black Regular, Century Schoolbook, Curier, Georgia, Times New Roman, URW Bookman. I like URW Bookman and Curier but this is my opinion. :)

I put two screenshots of the first page and two messages given by gs and pdfinfo here:

http://sort-of.homelinux.org/tift/index.html

- one screenshot is for gs, second for xpdf. The problem is that in gs look different then xpdf, I don't know yet why. I use css to resize in page, so you can see details with 'view image'.
- gs warning could come from different setting for gs and scribus about Acrobat version, I must check this. You generate pdf for Acrobat 5.0?
- ArialMT is not embeded but I guess that this stand for Arial Mingti2L Big5 Reguler and I guess also that scribus load setting fonts for page at start-up, look to scribus settings for your template

best regards

tfit
09-02-2008, 05:56 PM
it's a e-zine, I miss that and therefor my previous comments have less sense. When I said bad I was talking about posting a pdf, :)
No, mixing fonts is not bad, pdf can embed fonts and this way different platform are not a problem as far as document is a valid pdf. Screen resolution/depth are not critic and zoom not a big problem.
About fonts, it's more easy then in a web page, :) Not easy to choose but you have a lot of option, :). Arial Black Regular, Century Schoolbook, Curier, Georgia, Times New Roman, URW Bookman. I like URW Bookman and Curier but this is my opinion. :)

I put two screenshots of the first page and two messages given by gs and pdfinfo here:

http://sort-of.homelinux.org/tift/index.html

- one screenshot is for gs, second for xpdf. The problem is that in gs look different then xpdf, I don't know yet why. I use css to resize in page, so you can see details with 'view image'.
- gs warning could come from different setting for gs and scribus about Acrobat version, I must check this. You generate pdf for Acrobat 5.0?
- ArialMT is not embeded but I guess that this stand for Arial Mingti2L Big5 Reguler and I guess also that scribus load setting fonts for page at start-up, look to scribus settings for your template

best regards

The gsview is definitely wrong. It should be the other one. I started with times than arial and it looked bad as i forgot to include them. I changed everything to verdana, but i see i still have some arial floating around.
Isn't dyndns a nice solution :D
Yes from acrobat 5 onward as I use Transparency.

Millenia
09-02-2008, 06:11 PM
changed everything to verdana

I don't have the Verdana font. My OS doesn't come with it installed. It doesn't pose as a major problem, but I'd just like you to be aware of it.

tfit
09-02-2008, 06:17 PM
Are you kidding me? I'm still using w2k and it has verdana. What platform are you on?

Apostropartheid
09-02-2008, 07:02 PM
Anything other than Windows and OS X generally doesn't have Verdana installed by default, tfit.

Millenia
09-02-2008, 07:11 PM
Are you kidding me? I'm still using w2k and it has verdana. What platform are you on?

There is a world outside of Windows...

Shock horror.

oesxyl
09-02-2008, 07:30 PM
I don't have the Verdana font. My OS doesn't come with it installed. It doesn't pose as a major problem, but I'd just like you to be aware of it.


Anything other than Windows and OS X generally doesn't have Verdana installed by default, tfit.


There is a world outside of Windows...

Shock horror.
does not matter if you/we/I/??? have or not Verdana, the font is embeded in pdf, tfit said few times about that, :)

best regards

Millenia
09-02-2008, 07:37 PM
does not matter if you/we/I/??? have or not Verdana, the font is embeded in pdf, tfit said few times about that, :)

best regards

Oh nice, I never knew that. Although I don't really know that much about PDF's.

oracleguy
09-02-2008, 07:42 PM
Yeah, that is one of the advantages to PDFs, since all that data can be embedded into the PDF, you can ensure it will look the same on other computers.

oesxyl
09-02-2008, 08:54 PM
The gsview is definitely wrong. It should be the other one. I started with times than arial and it looked bad as i forgot to include them. I changed everything to verdana, but i see i still have some arial floating around.
Isn't dyndns a nice solution :D
Yes from acrobat 5 onward as I use Transparency.
I trust gs more the scribus but what is important is how it look in acrobat, because I guess will be the most frecvent used then any other tool, :)
Did you test Century Schoolbook, Georgia and URW Bookman? In my opinion such font give a good contrast because of kerning, I don't know how true is this without testing.
I don't have acrobat installed, is too fat in my opinion, :), probably is a good idea to test how it looks with 4.0. I don't know how many people use 4.0 or 5.0, maybe you can get some statistics from the net.

PS: I have dyndns acount and freedns too, :). The server is my local server at home but is not always online, :)

best regards

jerry62704
09-02-2008, 10:13 PM
does not matter if you/we/I/??? have or not Verdana, the font is embeded in pdf, tfit said few times about that, :)

best regards

"tfit"?

oesxyl
09-02-2008, 10:32 PM
"tfit"?
?

best regards

tfit
09-03-2008, 09:23 AM
There is a world outside of Windows...

Shock horror.

I'm glad there is. I'm still working on my transition to openbsd

tfit
09-03-2008, 09:27 AM
I trust gs more the scribus but what is important is how it look in acrobat, because I guess will be the most frecvent used then any other tool, :)
Did you test Century Schoolbook, Georgia and URW Bookman? In my opinion such font give a good contrast because of kerning, I don't know how true is this without testing.
I don't have acrobat installed, is too fat in my opinion, :), probably is a good idea to test how it looks with 4.0. I don't know how many people use 4.0 or 5.0, maybe you can get some statistics from the net.

PS: I have dyndns acount and freedns too, :). The server is my local server at home but is not always online, :)

best regards

No, don't try it in 4. From 5 on there is transparency. When you use 4 some parts of the text are invisible. I looked at what others where using and the is a wide mixture of fonts used, but I haven't tried the ones you suggested. Have you tried foxit reader? it is just 4mb and supports transparency.

tfit
09-03-2008, 09:29 AM
I'm sorry i can't answer promptly, but I have another 60 pages I have to work on. Thanks for all the suggestions.

tfit
09-03-2008, 09:32 AM
Anything other than Windows and OS X generally doesn't have Verdana installed by default, tfit.

Wasn't aware of that. So i better check i always include the font.

oesxyl
09-03-2008, 02:30 PM
I'm sorry i can't answer promptly, but I have another 60 pages I have to work on. Thanks for all the suggestions.
the pourpuse of this forum is to help you, I guess nobody stress you to answer promptly, :)

best regards

oesxyl
09-03-2008, 02:49 PM
No, don't try it in 4. From 5 on there is transparency. When you use 4 some parts of the text are invisible.
is not about me, I have a lot of option to see a pdf, almost all tool I use can deal with transparency.
It's about your users. If 10% of them use acrobat 4.0, I don't know the real numbers, they can't see the pdf as you want.
IMO choose a design or other is finaly a big compromise between what we want and what our users and their tools accept.


I looked at what others where using and the is a wide mixture of fonts used, but I haven't tried the ones you suggested.
as long are embeded probably is not a problem, but first you must like how it look, :).


Have you tried foxit reader? it is just 4mb and supports transparency.
AFAIK, foxit is for windows. I use debian, I have'n windows installed from many years, :)
CF is a mixed place, AFAIK Millenia use mandriva, some users have os x, others different bsd and some solaris. Most of users are probably on windows, some probably switch between different os.

PS: it's not a problem of resources, I simply don't like programs with hundred of dependencies which need few giga of disk just because space/memory is cheap, :)

best regards

jerry62704
09-03-2008, 03:21 PM
?

best regards

I was asking what "tfit" meant - my mistake in not seeing his name.

oesxyl
09-03-2008, 03:26 PM
I was asking what "tfit" meant - my mistake in not seeing his name.
I ask because I don't understant, :)

best regards



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