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tagnu
06-17-2008, 05:34 AM
Hi all,

I recently saw this page about a directory listing script. They've discontinued their product stating the following.


.... - building links-popularity through directory-script reciprocation does not work anymore. Second, it is now official that directories are very likely to cause long-term or even permanent exclusion from major search engines, like Google. Third, directories are now nearly useless for end visitors and bring little value to your site.

Is this true?

Link to the original site (http://www.boonex.com/products/barracuda/)

gnomeontherun
06-17-2008, 08:00 PM
That sounds like a lot of opinion to me...

If it is official, then why would there be a directory of SEO experts? http://www.seoconsultants.com/

There might be some value to it, but directories being unless to visitors? Thats definitely dependent on what the visitor decides to do. A directory of service providers in a local area seems very useful to me...

oesxyl
06-17-2008, 10:17 PM
Is this true?
yes is true. You can subscript to dmoz but don't need a script for that.


google:

http://www.google.com/webmasters/

I'm not sure about msn, but yahoo have something similar.

regards

gnomeontherun
06-17-2008, 10:52 PM
When your site is ready:

* Have other relevant sites link to yours.
* Submit it to Google at http://www.google.com/addurl.html.
* Submit a Sitemap as part of our Google Webmaster Tools. Google uses your Sitemap to learn about the structure of your site and to increase our coverage of your webpages.
* Make sure all the sites that should know about your pages are aware your site is online.
* Submit your site to relevant directories such as the Open Directory Project and Yahoo!, as well as to other industry-specific expert sites.

Doesn't this suggest Directories are still ok? I think choosing to be included in appropriate directories and avoiding a spamming technique is what is likely to get you in trouble.


Quality guidelines - basic principles

* Make pages primarily for users, not for search engines. Don't deceive your users or present different content to search engines than you display to users, which is commonly referred to as "cloaking."
* Avoid tricks intended to improve search engine rankings. A good rule of thumb is whether you'd feel comfortable explaining what you've done to a website that competes with you. Another useful test is to ask, "Does this help my users? Would I do this if search engines didn't exist?"
* Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank. In particular, avoid links to web spammers or "bad neighborhoods" on the web, as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.
* Don't use unauthorized computer programs to submit pages, check rankings, etc. Such programs consume computing resources and violate our Terms of Service. Google does not recommend the use of products such as WebPosition Gold™ that send automatic or programmatic queries to Google.


http://www.google.com/support/webmasters/bin/answer.py?answer=35769&query=directory&topic=&type=

oesxyl
06-17-2008, 11:05 PM
compare this:

.... - building links-popularity through directory-script reciprocation does not work anymore. Second, it is now official that directories are very likely to cause long-term or even permanent exclusion from major search engines, like Google. Third, directories are now nearly useless for end visitors and bring little value to your site.
with what you cite in your last post. I miss something or you said that answer to tagnu question is yes is true?

btw Open Project Directory is dmoz, :)
regards

syntacs_ph
06-19-2008, 07:30 AM
I think directory are still helpful specially those that are related to your website. I only use a few strategies towards optimizing a website and that includes directory submission and they still works. :)

tagnu
06-19-2008, 07:53 AM
Bit confused.

compare this:

with what you cite in your last post. I miss something or you said that answer to tagnu question is yes is true?

btw Open Project Directory is dmoz, :)
regards

tagnu
06-19-2008, 07:54 AM
So it is okay going for the link directory as long as 'no' spamming is done?

NancyJ
06-19-2008, 08:14 AM
It depends very much on the 'directory'. Stuff like dmoz and yahoo are fine, they're free and moderated. Its different to a paid for link on a spammy link farm.

However, adding your site to such places will not do anything to improve your search engine rankings, because a directory is nothing but a link farm. The site's 'prestige' is shared out between all the sites in the directory - which means even if the directory is PR10 the increase to your own PR will be negligible. You get a much bigger increase from being in a handful of external links on a PR 2 or 3 site than one of thousands on a PR 10.

oesxyl
06-19-2008, 05:55 PM
It depends very much on the 'directory'. Stuff like dmoz and yahoo are fine, they're free and moderated. Its different to a paid for link on a spammy link farm.

However, adding your site to such places will not do anything to improve your search engine rankings, because a directory is nothing but a link farm. The site's 'prestige' is shared out between all the sites in the directory - which means even if the directory is PR10 the increase to your own PR will be negligible. You get a much bigger increase from being in a handful of external links on a PR 2 or 3 site than one of thousands on a PR 10.
to avoid confusion about each opinion, I'm agree with what NancyJ said.

regards

tagnu
06-21-2008, 03:46 AM
Thank you all for the information.



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