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oesxyl
06-01-2008, 01:04 PM
a lot of people have negative reputation, some of them have only few posts and when I search I don't see any reason for this.
I guess that many people don't answer to posters with negative reputation therefor the number of posts is low and also low the number of new users.
I think that giving negative reputation must be moderate some way or at least to make public who and why someone give neg. rep.

About make public vs. create stress I think that a poster must have the responsabilty of his atitude.

regards

oracleguy
06-01-2008, 07:15 PM
I think the bigger issue is that people don't issue positive reputation usually only negative. So once you have a negative rep, it is extremely difficult to change it.

oesxyl
06-01-2008, 07:32 PM
I think the bigger issue is that people don't issue positive reputation usually only negative. So once you have a negative rep, it is extremely difficult to change it.
this is just a bad behavior as not giving thanks and don't affect the forum trafic.
To be more clear in what I said, there is no visible reason that some of the poster to have negative reputation and are to many in this position, over the average I guess. This period of the year is one of the most active for this forum but the trafic is under average.

regards

_Aerospace_Eng_
06-03-2008, 04:00 PM
One instance was this thread:
http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?p=691043

In this thread I receive a negative rep from the OP calling me an idiot though I didn't do anything wrong. He then accused me of posting links to porn and stuff which I didn't do. He said he had my ip address and knew it was me but had no way of knowing if it was me or not so I registered for his forum what do you know the ips don't match. Then he asked me for help. I told him no because he accused me of something I didn't do without having the facts. I gave him negative rep for acting the way he did.

oesxyl
06-03-2008, 05:11 PM
I gave him negative rep for acting the way he did.
I read the post before you give this details, poster was impulsive and rude. BTW thank you for explanation.
I don't talk about this kind of situation because are normal.

regards

o0O0o.o0O0o
06-04-2008, 12:49 AM
It happened with me many times

NancyJ
06-04-2008, 12:48 PM
Also bear in mind that really bad posts get deleted, so maybe you're not seeing the posts that got them their rep.

Also, on the not giving positive rep thing - that is true. People give thanks instead of positive rep. The 'thank this person' button is huge and obvious and newb friendly, the rep button is small and not obvious.

Maybe you could give some examples of neg rep posters who you think don't deserve their bad rep.

abduraooft
06-04-2008, 01:02 PM
I usually give negative rep for posts like http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=141306. After that I report them :)

binaryWeapon
06-04-2008, 04:23 PM
It happened with me many times

Might have something to do with your sig... ;).

Aero, he de-repped me too (luckily it didn't have any effect since he already had -15 or less), and I suspect he de-repped anyone who told him that he was wrong about something. Pretty ironic that someone thanked you for the exact same thing...

oesxyl
06-04-2008, 09:06 PM
It happened with me many times
yes, but you ask for it, :)
I was tempted when I read 'derepudiate me' to take you serios and give you some neg rep, :)


Aero, he de-repped me too (luckily it didn't have any effect since he already had -15 or less), and I suspect he de-repped anyone who told him that he was wrong about something. Pretty ironic that someone thanked you for the exact same thing...
I'm lost, :) who? what you are talking about?
you talk about o0O0o.o0O0o?


Also bear in mind that really bad posts get deleted, so maybe you're not seeing the posts that got them their rep.
yes, I miss that, :)
My observation is statistic, when I look to the posts I see more red boxes then before and I guess that the rate of 'bad boys' don't grow over night. Only few times, when the user have less posts, I look to their posts and don't find nothing serios.


Also, on the not giving positive rep thing - that is true. People give thanks instead of positive rep. The 'thank this person' button is huge and obvious and newb friendly, the rep button is small and not obvious.
unfortunately is true. Many poster don't answer, just ask, and this way they have no chance to recive positive rep or thanks but neg. rep. make people to avoid answer their question and that is a problem.


Maybe you could give some examples of neg rep posters who you think don't deserve their bad rep.
I have two, one with neg rep given far to easy and one where I don't see a reason at all and probably if I spend some time I could find others but I can't give example since the posters don't complain about that.

regards

binaryWeapon
06-04-2008, 09:39 PM
I'm lost, :) who? what you are talking about?
you talk about o0O0o.o0O0o?


The OP from this thread (http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?p=691043), NightFlyer.

NancyJ
06-05-2008, 08:14 AM
We haven't had the rep feature for very long and the 'thanks' button is even newer.

As more members get positive rep, their 'de-reps' count for me - for example, 1 negative rep from me is enough to take someone from 1 green square down to a red (completely skipping the neutral phase) whereas when the feature first came in, it took multiple people giving a negative rep to get in you the red, now it takes only 1 or 2 so it only takes a couple of people to take a dislike to your post to get you negative rep and because of the 'thanks' button its very difficult to gain positive rep.

The 'problem' is probably not as bad as you think - its a phenomenon called 'confirmation bias', every time you see a neg reg posted it confirms your premise, you just don't notice the things that don't fit. Like when I got a motorbike, suddenly it seemed like everyone had one, but really, I was just noticing them more.

o0O0o.o0O0o
06-05-2008, 11:16 AM
Might have something to do with your sig...


yes, but you ask for it,
I was tempted when I read 'derepudiate me' to take you serios and give you some neg rep,


I was talking on same reference as well

Means it happened with me that some people gave me postive rep(for me its -ve :D) without any reason

Is there any need for reputation? I think more thank means more reutation.

SIdeNote: Is it possible to get De-thanked

bazz
06-05-2008, 01:05 PM
I have never been bothered about rep or thanks because I help when I can just as payback for the help offered to me.

But, where can I now see what sort of rep I have been given? I seem unable to find a link.


bazz

o0O0o.o0O0o
06-05-2008, 01:08 PM
where can I now see what sort of rep I have been given? bazz


You will become famous soon enough

TheShaner
06-05-2008, 03:23 PM
But, where can I now see what sort of rep I have been given? I seem unable to find a link.
Click User CP and it'll show you the infractions and reputation you've received.

-Shane

whizard
06-05-2008, 03:59 PM
I agree with bazz. If you are helping people merely so that you get positive rep and increase your social status in a virtual world, you need to get out more.

Who cares what rep you have, if you are red but you solve someone's problem, they'll still accept your solution. At the end of the day, CF is about developers helping each other.

Dan

o0O0o.o0O0o
06-06-2008, 08:28 AM
I agree with bazz. If you are helping people merely so that you get positive rep and increase your social status in a virtual world, you need to get out more.

Who cares what rep you have, if you are red but you solve someone's problem, they'll still accept your solution. At the end of the day, CF is about developers helping each other.

Dan

I agree with you that rep here has nothing to do with real word . To accomplish anything we need motivation . So here rep and thanks are motivation factors. I am also trying to learn as much stuff as i can so i can have more thanks . Although it won't make me any bigger but it gives psychological statisfaction . So i will learn more to help people more . So everyone will get benefit from it.

Reputation also tells you about the person . E,g i have no reputation if i have to enter any vulgar comment i won't mind because i have no rep . But senior person with lots of rep will think twice before entering any word or text which can hurt anyones feeling . so it keeps them under control.

oracleguy
06-06-2008, 09:01 AM
But senior person with lots of rep will think twice before entering any word or text which can hurt anyones feeling . so it keeps them under control.

Typically anyone who stays around long enough to be considered a senior member of the community 'stays under control' as you put it not because of their rep points but because they aren't douche bags.

o0O0o.o0O0o
06-06-2008, 02:35 PM
I think to some extent rep points also matters.

Consider Aero and person ABC are very angry with some OP. Now considring their anger as same degree. Aero won't say any bad words to him beacuse of reputation he has earned. But ABC even though senior can write something against OP not vulgar but something little bad as , he won't think about reputation.

oracleguy
06-06-2008, 06:59 PM
Yes but the more rep points you have, the more it makes you immune to negative rep points from users without a lot of influence (like new members). If you have 250 rep points, if someone gives you -3 points, it really won't change anything at all.

abduraooft
06-07-2008, 08:20 AM
If you have 250 rep points, if someone gives you -3 points, it really won't change anything at all. can only hope to improve. :rolleyes:

oesxyl
06-10-2008, 08:22 PM
Yes but the more rep points you have, the more it makes you immune to negative rep points from users without a lot of influence (like new members). If you have 250 rep points, if someone gives you -3 points, it really won't change anything at all.
yeah, you are right. Even if is less then 250 don't have influence.
I have positive rep and I was concerned about others posters rep and his influence but seems that I'm idiot because somebody with neg rep, give me neg. rep. probably to make me wander why I'm concerned, :)

From my point of view the thread can be closed.

thank you everybody for your opinion.

I can only hope to improve, :)
regards

logictrap
06-12-2008, 03:24 PM
I got a d-rep with the comment 'Reciprocal bad rep'.

I haven't d-repped anyone and since the system doesn't say who issued the d-rep I can only assume there is a dysfunctional psychic using the system.

oesxyl
06-12-2008, 05:44 PM
I got a d-rep with the comment 'Reciprocal bad rep'.

I haven't d-repped anyone and since the system doesn't say who issued the d-rep I can only assume there is a dysfunctional psychic using the system.
try to don't do the same, :)
I was de-rep few times, 4-5 if I'm not wrong, one time probably was my fault, I can answer to o0O0o.o0O0o to a question and be serios in the same time, :)
Somebody notice and de-rep me, :)
two times was missunderstanding, from my point of view, op think that and that's it, was furios, I can understand that, :)
this last time instead, the user was obvious from the category you mention, :)

regards



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