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TheShaner
03-31-2008, 03:18 PM
Hey all,

I've noticed that every now and again, we receive threads from people that have never posted on Codingforums previously, asking for site reviews on websites that are totally finished, public, and live. Also, these new members usually never respond back to the critiques. So it's pretty evident that these are people just looking for backlinks to promote their sites. Unfortunately, these "reviews" never break any forums rules and thus are allowed to remain.

My suggestion is to make the Site Review forum restricted in some way like the Active Members forum is. Maybe some kind of post count like 5 or 10; just enough to show that they are not first time posters looking for a backlink to their site.

I understand signatures sometime have this effect and one of these members only has to post a random message in another forum that doesn't violate a rule, but it'll at least limit some of these backlink posts, along with saving honest reviewers' time.

-Shane

oracleguy
03-31-2008, 07:01 PM
Since you obviously have some threads in mind, could you post the links?

TheShaner
03-31-2008, 07:26 PM
A few of the threads I'm referring to. There have been more in the past.

http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=136465
http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=135883
http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=131626
http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=134663 (although the user did respond back at least)

-Shane

oracleguy
03-31-2008, 07:29 PM
Thanks, I cleaned the latter ones up. I went through and deleted a bunch of other threads too where the OP never came back nor ever checked the thread.

TheShaner
03-31-2008, 08:20 PM
Thanks, I cleaned the latter ones up. I went through and deleted a bunch of other threads too where the OP never came back nor ever checked the thread.
Thanks OG. Just hate seeing people looking for backlinks and wasting the time of our members when they're attempting to give an honest review. I'd just like to see a way of preventing this possibly in the future.

-Shane

Deacon Frost
03-31-2008, 08:46 PM
I get where you're going, yeah, it should be implemented that they aren't allowed to do that. Also with posting like, company names, and then never responding to PM's, and the post... Basically creating dead threads.

WA
03-31-2008, 09:12 PM
I've thought about restricting the Site Reviews forum to members with x number of posts only. However, there does seem to be quite a number of "legitimate" site review requests coming from 1st time posters, so I'm concerned these people may become part of the casualty as well. Two other possible solutions:

1) Make the Site Reviews forum moderated, so all new posts have to be approved by a mod first
2) Try and add to the top of all Site Review pages a "no-follow" meta tag. That means no links in those threads will be crawled by Google, Yahoo etc.

Man power is a major concern in implementing 2), but all 3 solutions above have their ups and downs. What do you guys think?

Inigoesdr
03-31-2008, 09:40 PM
2) Try and add to the top of all Site Review pages a "no-follow" meta tag. That means no links in those threads will be crawled by Google, Yahoo etc.

Here is a vB plugin if you decide to do that:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>

<plugins>
<plugin active="1" executionorder="5" product="vbulletin">
<title>Nofollow tag for Site Review Forum</title>
<hookname>showthread_start</hookname>
<phpcode><![CDATA[if($foruminfo['forumid'] == 37)
$headinclude .= '<meta name="robots" content="nofollow">';]]></phpcode>
</plugin>
</plugins>

TheShaner
03-31-2008, 09:57 PM
I've thought about restricting the Site Reviews forum to members with x number of posts only. However, there does seem to be quite a number of "legitimate" site review requests coming from 1st time posters, so I'm concerned these people may become part of the casualty as well. Two other possible solutions:

1) Make the Site Reviews forum moderated, so all new posts have to be approved by a mod first
2) Try and add to the top of all Site Review pages a "no-follow" meta tag. That means no links in those threads will be crawled by Google, Yahoo etc.

Man power is a major concern in implementing 2), but all 3 solutions above have their ups and downs. What do you guys think?
I've also noticed there are legitimate threads that are from first-time posters, so like you said, the x number of posts probably isn't the best method. Forum moderating and the no-follow tag will prevent posters from benefiting from backlinking, but not necessarily preventing the posts in the first place. However, if I had to vote for one, I'd say forum moderating would be the best way.

-Shane

oesxyl
04-01-2008, 09:48 AM
I've thought about restricting the Site Reviews forum to members with x number of posts only. However, there does seem to be quite a number of "legitimate" site review requests coming from 1st time posters, so I'm concerned these people may become part of the casualty as well. Two other possible solutions:

1) Make the Site Reviews forum moderated, so all new posts have to be approved by a mod first
2) Try and add to the top of all Site Review pages a "no-follow" meta tag. That means no links in those threads will be crawled by Google, Yahoo etc.

Man power is a major concern in implementing 2), but all 3 solutions above have their ups and downs. What do you guys think?

- few of them become later active, I could give one example
- both meta and nofollow is a solution for se bots, not for posting. Many don't read the rules and guidlines and I doubt that they look in the page source
- some old thread and dead are bumbed by mistake, must be closed probably

what is the simplest and costless way?

PS: number of posts is not good, force people to post without saying anything, number of thanks seems good, in fact if they want a review must know something, or not?

best regards

abduraooft
04-01-2008, 10:01 AM
How about putting some default text/warning( as we follow in "Web projects" forum) like "Your post won't be crawled by search engines" or something similar along with the above suggested method?

croatiankid
04-01-2008, 03:02 PM
I'd actually suggest doing something like SitePoint does, that is, you have review 3 sites before asking to review every site.

abduraooft
04-01-2008, 03:47 PM
I'd actually suggest doing something like SitePoint does, that is, you have review 3 sites before asking to review every site. Then a clever spammer(?) will first post three spam-replies and then a spam-thread :eek:

WA
04-01-2008, 08:09 PM
I think I'll wait until vBulletin 3.7 to revisit this issue. There are a few new features dealing with spam that may be helpful here.

Deacon Frost
04-02-2008, 05:19 PM
Oooh??? New release of vBulletin??? Nice.

Well, you could just have a set cut off date. Like a week. Since it is so active, any posts without actual reviews, reposts, or anything like that are pruned and deleted. Doesn't really need monitored, just cleaned every few days. That way the back link is destroyed, by the time robots find it, they'll just be gone.

And for the pages that are legit, they stay because they're active :P. (hence more people coming back to actually SEE what people said about the site, and not just using it for backlinking.)

oracleguy
04-02-2008, 07:56 PM
Oooh??? New release of vBulletin??? Nice.

Well, you could just have a set cut off date. Like a week. Since it is so active, any posts without actual reviews, reposts, or anything like that are pruned and deleted. Doesn't really need monitored, just cleaned every few days. That way the back link is destroyed, by the time robots find it, they'll just be gone.

And for the pages that are legit, they stay because they're active :P. (hence more people coming back to actually SEE what people said about the site, and not just using it for backlinking.)

Basically thats what I did, I went back and deleted a bunch of threads where the OP never ever posted back.

TheShaner
04-02-2008, 08:04 PM
Basically thats what I did, I went back and deleted a bunch of threads where the OP never ever posted back.
That works for me if you, or some other Mod, doesn't mind checking it every now and then :)

-Shane

Deacon Frost
04-03-2008, 02:29 AM
Basically thats what I did, I went back and deleted a bunch of threads where the OP never ever posted back.

Awesome XD. But I'm guessing that it wouldn't be too difficult (if not already easily set up) to where you don't even have to do that.. (syphon through anything) because I THINK, not sure, but I think there's something on vB that just allows a click to prune... it's in maintenence or somethng.



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