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nikos101
11-06-2007, 11:36 AM
A lot of people seem to raving about this terapad (http://www.terapad.com/) continuing the trend that web developers need to find better ways of making money rather than things like updating content for users which could become a thing of the past because of CMS.

What are your opinions about terapad?

mic2100
11-06-2007, 05:52 PM
i suppose this is fine if you don't want your own custom look & feel, but many CMS systems have been around for a while now and still arn't in a a position to take over the development/design world (Just yet!).

I don't have any personal opinions about terapad or any other piece of software that makes it easier for user to generate there own content/site. Its a god send really cos thats the stuff i generally can't be bothered with any way.

juliand
11-07-2007, 03:51 PM
In my opinion systems like Terapad will never remove the need for quality web developers. Companies will always need 100% customised websites, with their own style and functionality.

However this kind of work can only be paid for by companies with decent budget. That's where Terapad comes in.

My company - HTLonline - have been using Terapad to create sites for small businesses. We can do it quick and easily and the customers are really happy with the end result.
Have a look at http://www.rockmasters.net or http://gsr2r.terapad.com

Yes you have to compromise on some design style, but the functionality is still there and 99% of what these small businesses need can be done. What is unusual about this is that we are actually making money out of businesses that we would normally turn away.

So I think there is definitely a place for Terapad, it compliments our own product portfolio very well, and I love it! One of my guys can get a site up and running in a day and of course we get the extra business with domain names / email etc.

I was interested to see they have just announced what looks like a pretty good reseller package <here> (http://blog.terapad.com/index.cfm?fa=contentNews.newsDetails&newsID=40929&from=list)

srule_
11-07-2007, 04:49 PM
juliand is right on point.

To survive in any business you must be able to adapt. Think of company's like Ford, what happened to them? The answers is quite obvious, they were narrow minded and failed to see changes within there industry until it was to late.

On the other hand think of a company like Kodak. They adapted with the change from film to digital. But how? Well Kodak was not in the business of making film, not even in the businesses of making pictures. Kodak was in the business of capturing memories!

Moral of this little post is that as web developers we are not in the business of designing website. We are in the business of creating corporate identity, connecting people with the world, ect... This will depends on your goals as a developer. So in essence, yes perhaps these types of services takes away from some business, but if we play our cards right and understand what we are really providing our customers we can use it to our benefit!

nikos101
11-08-2007, 12:06 PM
Well this is all added fuel to thought for me. Lets us run with the tide and not stay narrow minded :)

btw do customers ever complain that you are using terapad instead of doing all the work yourself?

juliand
11-08-2007, 06:05 PM
Well, the current clients have asked us what Terapad is, and we have explained. They haven't had any major objections. The Terapad logo is displayed on the bottom of the page and in the control panel, but it's not massively 'in your face'. Also the Terapad thing gives them some extra benefits with SEO tools already embedded, and traffic comes from their community pages. When you consider how much they are paying for the design work its not a bad compromise, and the clients we have done work for are generally happy.

I have just read about Terapad's reseller product which allows you to sell the Pro product which gets rid of the logo on the front page, and puts MY logo on the control panel for the client to see. This sounds pretty cool, I am waiting to find out more - this might make this platform suitable for some of our larger clients - we will see ....................

I would be interested to find out if anyone on these forums has had any experience of using similar platforms to Terapad. Do any exist? I tried Joomla but needed our own server and everything and it was loads of hassle so I gave up.

srule_
11-10-2007, 01:01 AM
But honestly, why sell this to your clients when they can use wordpress and some other great CMSs for free?

juliand
11-10-2007, 07:43 PM
well currently the customers are only paying us for the customisation work. If they subscribe to Terapad that's up to them, but some of them just use the free version.

We did look at wordpress as an option for these small businesses, but to be honest it can only do about 10% of what Terapad can do.

I'd be interested to hear any recomendations of other systems that might have a similar feature set / price ...

nikos101
11-10-2007, 07:56 PM
Well I am am starting to like this idea more and more, I think I may definitely try that reseller stuff.

btw what would anyone charge a small business for a site made by using terapad?

nikos101
11-10-2007, 08:01 PM
I'd be interested to hear any recomendations of other systems that might have a similar feature set / price ...


There is actually a programe called Mr site that Business Gateway in the UK gives away free to small businesses. I've never used it though

juliand
11-11-2007, 11:19 AM
I had a quick look at Mr Site.
I'm not sure how well this would work for us. At a glance the feature list is not as extensive as Terapad and most importantly it doesn't use CSS as its design standard.

Terapad is free and I would have to pay for a copy of Mr Site in order to try it. So that puts me off as well.

Also it seems to offer domain name registration, email and hosting servces. I can see where some people may like this, but we offer these services too so it would conflict. :eek:

Has anyone tried it?

As far as the small business websites go we are charging anywhere between 100 and 1000 for the initial set up and design (which takes us betwen 2 hours and 2 days depending on what they want). In the two examples I showed earlier .. Rockmasters was 1000 and took 2 days, GSR2R was 500 and took 1 day. Its keeps my guys busy when they are in between larger projects or just fancy a change for a day or two.

I heard back from Terapad about their reseller package. They are collecting details ready for the launch of the reseller package which should be around early december. They are planning on a launch event of some description, and all resellers that have registered prior to the launch will be included on their reseller directory on the day of the launch.

Here's what Terapad are saying they will do for businesses like ours.

a) Support Us
b) Whitelabel our control panels so clients think it was us to designed the CMS
c) Send us leads. They have people from all over the world asking for help in customising their sites and they will pass the leads throuh to resellers.
d) Give us discounts from their subscription fees, so that if a client signs up we get 20% of all the income for the life of the website.
d) I will be given a profile page on their site which will include informartion about my company, links to my website, and my own private template library. This is interesting because i can get the guys to make CSS templates when they have nothng better to do.

There's more as well, but not enough time to include in this post. have a look at http://www.terapad.com/resellers .

Is there anyone else using Terapad here? Surely its not just us?

nikos101
11-12-2007, 10:04 AM
Now I'm really going for it, straight away.

nikos101
11-12-2007, 10:13 AM
OK now I'm waiting to hear back from them about becoming a reseller!

Inigoesdr
11-13-2007, 06:24 AM
I played around with terapad, and I have to say that I'm impressed at how easy everything was to setup. It's basically a two-step turnkey solution that's very dynamic, and well planned-out. This would be a good solution for people that aren't very web-saavy, and small organizations to get started with.

nikos101
11-14-2007, 10:09 AM
However I find that it doesn't have a clue how to do valid code.

But I don't really care to much tbh.

juliand
12-03-2007, 11:51 PM
We are now official Terapad Resellers.

Since I last posted we have created 5 websites, but now having problems adding them to my reseller account. They are trying to sort this out,

There should be no problems for future sites, which is good. This is a nice little money earner, we are thinking about promoting it properly. 1 days work for website = &#163;500. I am generally pleased with the reseller package so far.

I see you are listed as a reseller Nikos. How are you finding it?

nikos101
12-04-2007, 02:31 PM
After playing about with it I find it very easy going to manage. In the future all my clients are easily accessed via the rcontrol panel so that will improve my workflow. I'll use terapad for my next client.



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