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View Full Version : I applied "right click" protection on my web site and someone overrode it



Soozan48
09-23-2007, 01:29 AM
I am using Front Page (html) and have a large genealogy web site.

Someone (not a nice person) has managed to override my "better right click protection" I had added to protect my site from him. How did he do this? I took the whole site down (had it for 7 years).

He managed to glean my whole PHP TNG site (I had a copyright and terms of use that he ignored ... same copyright was on regular html site also) so I had to shut that down.

Now I find he managed to get into my regular html site anyway! I plan to get watermarking program soon so I can rebuild my web site.

I also need help to figure out how to prevent the "cache" to continue.

I am just sick over all of this. I was entrusted by others with their research and pictures and he gleaned it all.

Any information or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

eak
09-23-2007, 01:44 AM
Anything you put into an html page can be overridden or copied by the end user.
There is nothing you can do to stop it other than not putting it on the web.

What exactly did this person do to your site? Is he just copying content?
If so, how do you know it was the same person that did it before?

bazz
09-23-2007, 01:49 AM
Is he definately breaching copyright in other words, is he using the content from your site anywhere - the web or printed material??

irrespective of being entrusted with management of clients images; who owned the copyright? it should be unlikely that you have copyright, so retribution should be done by the copyright holder and not, you.

It's a timely reminder on such forums that if something is published to a web page, the it is in the public domain. (not to be confused with domain names, public domain means that the material is exposed to the world and any intellectual property has been lost unless previously, it has been protected with patents or copyright. (copyright being the weaker of the two).

Disabling right click is, at best, pointless. Watermarking is at best an inconvenience both, to you and, the 'thief'.

'others' may have entrusted you with their research and copyright but that is an enathama (sp?) if it's copyright and if this is clearly explained in your site, then they may be in breach. Entrusting anyone with proprietary stuff or secret stuff is neither realistic nor is it fair on 'you'. and of course, if they have given it to you for publication in a website, they have sacrificed privacy because it is now in the public domain.

The person who has seemingly copied your site content may be technically in breach of copyright but, unless he uses it (perhaps to the point of passing it off as his own work), then it may not be possible to make him amenable. (lawyer's advice required).

Gleaning is not something necessarily to worry about. if he subsequently uses it, then maybe there is an issue and I have set out as best I know, how this could be addressed.

In summary:

if it's on the web it's public
if you have been 'entrusted' there should be a legal agreement to clarify who has copyright and who can use it.
if its on the web it's public,
watermarking will not stop the IT-aware.
if it's on the web, it's public,
disabling right click is, as I understand it, JavaScript and so, can be disabled easily. it is not a security measure!!!!!!!
again, if it's on the web its public.

Sorry to be a doom merchant but, if the owner of the content let it be published, then seemingly they weren't careful enough (based on my reading of your post).

If I missed something, please let me know.

bazz

bazz
09-23-2007, 01:51 AM
eak; I just love your sig :D I can relate to that from when I was a child. I hope that remains the case. ;)

bazz

Soozan48
09-23-2007, 02:24 AM
I guess I will just not have the site any more. I had a complete "terms of use" ... he is just a jerk. Thanks everyone :-)

bazz
09-23-2007, 02:44 AM
I am not sure I understand why you won't have the site anymore.

Clarify and we may be able to offer suggestions.

I mean: is your site totally duplicated?
Is it purely an information resource?
does the content draw clients?

bazz

eak
09-23-2007, 04:26 AM
I don't think you should take down your site because of just one person.

Do you know who this person is? And, do you have examples of what he is stealing? Any url's?

felgall
09-23-2007, 08:00 AM
If you want to protect images on a site then use a watermark in the image itself to provide some protection to the image.

The only two effects that a "no right click" script has is to drive newbie web users away from your site because you blocked their access to the menu they use to navigate the web and to encourage those with slightly more knowledge of the web to steal your images just because they know enough to bypass the script and think that knowing how to do so is clever. In fact most browsers can be set to automatically ignore such pointless scripts in the first place so any serious thief wont even realise that it is there. Also all of the images are copied to each of your visitor's computers by their browser before they view your page and so they just need to know where on their computer it was put to be able to get a copy of the images even without overriding the no right click script. That's why placing the protection in the images themselves is the only way that has any possibility of protecting the image from being stolen.

rmedek
09-23-2007, 08:38 AM
This has been asked so, so many times and the answer will always be "you cannot protect your source code." There's a sticky here:

http://www.codingforums.com/showthread.php?t=4437

felgall
09-23-2007, 08:45 PM
There are even people who are conned out of hundreds of dollars buying "encryption" software that supposedly protects their page content but which can be so easily bypassed that it the thief wouldn't even know it was there.



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