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jpolo9
09-14-2007, 10:08 AM
hey I fixed a bunch of problems for www.woodcreekwaterpolo.com in FireFox, but I can't seem to find why the background dissapears for the left and right columns on the announcements & news pages. any ideas?

Thanks,
-Jesse

timgolding
09-14-2007, 11:10 AM
seems the background works fine for me in FF, in IE6 i see some big problems

jpolo9
09-14-2007, 11:45 AM
If you click on the announcements page, the dark grey background underneath the left and right column won't show up.

I actually fixed all of the problems for I.E. 6 and used a separate stylesheet so it works fine, but i decided to have anyone viewing the site upgrade to IE 7 or firefox. I figure the sooner we get everyone off IE 6 the less I will have to develop for it professionally and the better the web will be for everyone.

timgolding
09-14-2007, 11:55 AM
I agree with that. Or can you persuade them to remove IE altogether. :)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean?
Do you mean the background for the left and right columns doesnt extend down the page?

Can you possibly send a picture of what its suppose to be like?

ahallicks
09-14-2007, 12:10 PM
I figure the sooner we get everyone off IE 6 the less I will have to develop for it professionally and the better the web will be for everyone.

Not wanting to get into any kind of debate, you shouldn't have to worry too much about IE6 because if you use semantic code and have enough experience in how to deal with IE6 you shouldn't have too much of a problem. All of the sites I have designed recently don't need any hacking for IE6, and if they do it's just a height or padding adjustment somewhere that can easily be sorted with a small hack. (Annoyingly I'm currently having more problems with IE7, dammit!).

The general consensus would be, as my sig says, code it for FF and then hack it for IE. But unless you are using amazingly complex designs that require CSS that IE6 doesn't recognise, it's not that bad a browser to build for. Stop being lazy :p

jpolo9
09-14-2007, 12:36 PM
Do you mean the background for the left and right columns doesnt extend down the page?

Yes that is exactly it. If you view it in IE 7 it looks the way it is supposed to. It may be a problem with overflow... I will try that.

Edit: Fixed. It was an overflow problem.

jpolo9
09-14-2007, 12:41 PM
Not wanting to get into any kind of debate... :p

I agree with you, and the only reason it is messed up in IE 6 is the wrong box model, so no hacks are even needed to fix it. But if developers keep fixing for IE6 i think it will take longer to switch everyone to IE7. Which will slow the overall progression of the web.

I am going to put the stylesheet back in and have a message display over the content asking users to upgrade to IE 7 or switch to FF. I will get started on that now...

jpolo9
09-14-2007, 12:58 PM
I fixed the problem, as noted above. It was an overflow problem after all, I forget what FF defaults overflow to...

Still some problems with the site in FF that I will work on. If you guys have any sugguestions on my code I always appreciate advice. This site was a fun one for the team I coach. Well it was fun implementing sIFR and Expression Engine, except for how long it took for me to impliment sIFR that is.

ahallicks
09-14-2007, 02:17 PM
I agree with you, and the only reason it is messed up in IE 6 is the wrong box model, so no hacks are even needed to fix it. But if developers keep fixing for IE6 i think it will take longer to switch everyone to IE7. Which will slow the overall progression of the web.

I am going to put the stylesheet back in and have a message display over the content asking users to upgrade to IE 7 or switch to FF. I will get started on that now...

Hmmm... but I'd still make the point that you have to design for your customers, not make them change their habits/browser just because you can't be bothered to add a couple of hacks for IE6. I agree, it does get annoying at times, but as I say, once you get used to it IE6 is a doddle.

At the end of the day it is your job to make your site accessible to all the people that you are aiming at, which means you're going to have to make it cross-browser compliant for a long time to come. As IE tends to lack good implementation of latest code releases I'd also suggest you het used to it ;)

Anyways... not to start a debate or anything...



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